CC#7 should work now (RC29)
Best Regards, Thorsten.
Nice…thanks…i recompil and try it..after lot’s of use and fun…a good "think"thing could be a real volume control,hardware? soft?(is it possible on next update to have a special encoder call volume)i talk about simple surface…on the din x4 there is the place for …Best regards 
The SID volume has only 4bit resolution, and you will notice additional background noise once you lower it.
However, you can control volume from a Knob function (-> Knob Encoder Layer). Just assign parameter #1 to it and you are done.
It’s even part of the modulation matrix.
But due to the reduced resolution and s/n issue, I would propose to use an external analog pot instead - or a digitally controlled VCA, which can be accessed (and modulated) from an AOUT module.
Best Regards, Thorsten.
Ok…the external analog pot seems to be a good choice..if someone have a adapted shematic for a stereo control volumel..welcome. :-[.
Best regards
It would be pretty easy to use a 13700 OTA as a VCA for this application.
Along those lines has anyone done this to replace the feedback pots for the SID, but so that this can be saved in a patch?
8 AOUT values and 8 switch settings are stored in the patch.
In addition, the “V2A” option allows you to route volume directly to an AOUT. This is especially useful for AM effects (Volume is part of the modulation matrix)
Best Regards, Thorsten.
The CC implementation is great, i had fun using Fruity’s midi out plugin to play with my sid.
I would really love to be able to control midibox sid with my Novation KS4 keyboard, without having it connected to a computer.
Unfotunately i cannot change the CC and NRPN numbers on this controller,
so i would like to change the MbSID paramater chart for my own needs.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Is it a case of simply editing sid_cc_table.inc for the CC numbers?
And which file would i edit to change the number of the NRPN’s?
Also if anyone can recommend a better VST than fruity’s midi out, to forward CC and NRPN changes, that would be great.
I was thinking of making a simple VST for controlling the SID while we wait for the other one to be finished for V2.
Using something like synthmaker, or synthedit.
I can only speak about Synthedit, but i can assure you that it’s no good for making a VST-controller the size of what is needed to control MB-SID - there are so many limitations and annoying MIDI specs it abides to. It could be done surely, but it will need some serious workarounds to work properly (to mention one, the lame ancient MIDI-spec that makes CC33-63 work as finecontrol of CC1-32 is a real pita!)
Fruity has a lovely alternative to ‘MIDI out’ which is called ‘Dashboard’ and works just like ‘studioware’ or thatsitcalled in Cakewalk / ‘Device panel’ in Cubase. ‘Dashboard’ allows you to design a custom controlpanel with knobs, buttons, dropdowns and the likes - only drawback is that it is only useable inside Fruity whereas a VST would be host-independent!!
I’m a Synthedit and Fruity user myself, so either way i’m really interested to see what you come up with 
i would even participate if you’re up for a joint venture!
I’m a Synthedit and Fruity user myself, so either way i’m really interested to see what you come up with
Have you tried Synthmaker in FL? It may be a good option. The Dashboards in FL are being replaced by FL Synthmaker. I’m not sure if they are being dropped completely with the release of FL 9, which is in about a week, but it’s possible. With FL synthmaker it’s only possible to export FL plugins rather than VSTs, but If someone is willing to do the leg work I have a standalone copy of Synthmaker and would gladly export a dashboard to VST to post here.
By the way, are you two on the Image-Line forums?
I love FL Studio (I’m on the FL forum VERY rarely though). A Synthedit/synthmaker plug would be interesting. I’ve not tried the JSynthLib editor so I’m not sure how easy it would be to use it to control the MB-SID.
You could try using MIDI Yoke to have multiple in/out to the MB-SID so you could use the JSynthLib editor to tweak parameters while playing notes from a MIDI Out in FL. I use a similar scheme with my Mopho and it works, but not nearly as nice as an integrated VST of course.
Aw man, i forgot about the new integrated SM that would definitely be a nice option!! I never used it, mainly because the VSTs cannot be used outside FL.
I didn’t know we were waiting for version 9, i’m running beta 8.5… And yes, i’m registered and a forum member at image-line, but i very very seldom visit - maybe because i never have complains about FL
I never used it, mainly because the VSTs cannot be used outside FL.
That’s because the FL version doesn’t actually create VSTs, but rather native FL plugins. The standalone can export actual VSTs.
That’s because the FL version doesn’t actually create VSTs, but rather native FL plugins. The standalone can export actual VSTs.
I know.. thats why i do not use it
An Idea:
There are a vast range of digital potentiometer chips available, (Farnell show 300+ in the volatile type, and 140 or so in the non-volatile type).
If an I2C/SPI version were chosen, the aout could be dispensed with, though since most are 256 step, there might be zipper noise issues in doing AM.
A small board of 8 duals would fit nicely in the MB 6582, as well. there are also SMT singles that would fit nicely too
I’ve used the older Maxim/Dallas ones to implement a remote volume control for poweered speakers, which used opto isolated RS485 loop to control the chip via an 8 pin microcontroller, (I can’t remember which one it was - I did the spec and initial design, the customers micro wizard did the programming).
The pots come in Log models too.
I might have a look once I get back to building.
The microchip ones are quite good, too…
plus, the also come in double packages
Hi TK,
im sorry to bother you but i was wondering if there was a quick way of
hacking the existing CC/NRPN chart,
and replacing it with my own CC/NRPN numbers for the desired parametrs?
If you could point me to the file which needs to be edited, and recompiled it would be great.
Cheers.
Following files have to be modified:
and
Best Regards, Thorsten.
Following files have to be modified:
and
Best Regards, Thorsten.
Thanks TK, youre a star! 