R1/10k resistor, required or not?

MIDIbox SID
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there is a way to test to verify if the sid is working?

i found a lot of troubleshootings for the core and midi

and they are fine, but nothing about the sid module

anyway, even if the sid is not working, i should be able to upload the mios to the core(?)

right now i also have a doubt about the j2(sid) and j10(core) connections

i’m supposed to use all the pins of the cable?

i did like this:

j2:so - j10:so

j2: md - j10:md

j2:rc - j10:rc

j2:mu - j10:mu

j2:sc - j10:sc

and so on…

i was supposed to leave some pins out?

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there is a way to test to verify if the sid is working?

i found a lot of troubleshootings for the core and midi

and they are fine, but nothing about the sid module

If the is module is working, you should get som sound out of it…  :wink:

anyway, even if the sid is not working, i should be able to upload the mios to the core(?)

YES

right now i also have a doubt about the j2(sid) and j10(core) connections

i’m supposed to use all the pins of the cable?

i did like this:

j2:so - j10:so

j2: md - j10:md

j2:rc - j10:rc

j2:mu - j10:mu

j2:sc - j10:sc

and so on…

i was supposed to leave some pins out?

That was exactly was I was asking you earlier! Did you check  http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_4xsid_c64_psu_optimized.pdf for the correct connections between the SID module and the Core module? Connections should be like:

j2:so - j10:so

j2:sc - j10:md

j2:rc - j10:rc

j2:mu - j10:mu

/offe

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EDIT: offe was faster ;D

But anyway:

anyway, even if the sid is not working, i should be able to upload the mios to the core(?)

Yes, this should work anyway.

right now i also have a doubt about the j2(sid) and j10(core) connections

i’m supposed to use all the pins of the cable?

i did like this:

j2:so - j10:so

j2: md - j10:md

j2:rc - j10:rc

j2:mu - j10:mu

j2:sc - j10:sc

and so on…

No, it`s no one-to-one wiring!

Please take a closer look: http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_4xsid_c64_psu_optimized.pdf

After MIOS is loaded, try the interconnection test (follow instructions in main.asm) BEFORE plugging in the SID.

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so i’m a bit fucked up…

and i also fucked up the j2/j10 connections, ok , i’m fixing it…

could be that, the reason why i’m not able to upload the mios?

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so i’m a bit fucked up…

and i also fucked up the j2/j10 connections, ok , i’m fixing it…

could be that, the reason why i’m not able to upload the mios?

Probably no. Actually, this is no rocket science, just read the documentation and use the search function in this forum. If you are using MIOS studio you should get something like “upload completed” or something like that. You should them be able to verify by sending and recieving sysex messages in the midi monitors in MIOS studio.

/offe

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You got it! So long MIOS is not running, you cannot expect that the MIDIbox SID or any other application is doing anything.

So, first try to debug this, offe already gave you the link to the debug page, unfortunately you didn’t answer him, therefore nobody knows, if you tried this or not, and it’s no surprise that you are confused by all the hints which don’t work, if you haven’t checked the basics

Don’t give up! But install the software step-by-step please.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

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ok guys

i fixed the connection j2 - j10

included the 5v from the psu to j2 of the sid

but the problem with MIOS still

with MIOS studio i did like this

launch the application

configure the connections for the midi interface

open the midi in midi out monitor windows

open the hex upload window

browse > mios 1.8 folder > hex folder > mios 1.8.hex

switch on my midibox

after the message

“F0 00 00 7E 40 00 01 F7”

appearde in the midi in monitor

i started the upload

then i got the message

“upload process complete”

but the message

“F0 00 00 7E 40 00 01 F7”

still coming on midi in monitor every 2 second

so well i don’t know, but to me the upload process seemed easy, something did’nt worked properly

anyway i did it also with SysExBex

like this:

launche the application

configure the midi interface

click “Open SysEx File”

fmios 1.8 folder > mios_1_8.sysex (bytes to sent 15392 - blocks to sent 13)

swich ton the midibox

after the message

"received sysex blocks from device 00 with 0 bytes in mios format - cmd 01 (not saved)

click " send SysEx"

but after a while the process lokks like frozen

bytes to sent 7104 - blocks to sent 6

the message

"received sysex blocks from device 00 with 0 bytes in mios format - cmd 01 (not saved)

still

let me try also with midi ox

i’ll let you know… but i’m so sad that is not working

the procedure should be easy but what can i say?

HELP!!

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ok guys

i fixed the connection j2 - j10

included the 5v from the psu to j2 of the sid

but the problem with MIOS still

with MIOS studio i did like this

launch the application

configure the connections for the midi interface

open the midi in midi out monitor windows

open the hex upload window

browse > mios 1.8 folder > hex folder > mios 1.8.hex

switch on my midibox

after the message

“F0 00 00 7E 40 00 01 F7”

appearde in the midi in monitor

i started the upload

then i got the message

“upload process complete”

but the message

“F0 00 00 7E 40 00 01 F7”

still coming on midi in monitor every 2 second

so well i don’t know, but to me the upload process seemed easy, something did’nt worked properly

anyway i did it also with SysExBex

like this:

launche the application

configure the midi interface

click “Open SysEx File”

fmios 1.8 folder > mios_1_8.sysex (bytes to sent 15392 - blocks to sent 13)

swich ton the midibox

after the message

"received sysex blocks from device 00 with 0 bytes in mios format - cmd 01 (not saved)

click " send SysEx"

but after a while the process lokks like frozen

bytes to sent 7104 - blocks to sent 6

the message

"received sysex blocks from device 00 with 0 bytes in mios format - cmd 01 (not saved)

still

let me try also with midi ox

i’ll let you know… but i’m so sad that is not working

the procedure should be easy but what can i say?

HELP!!

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ok guys

i fixed the connection j2 - j10

included the 5v from the psu to j2 of the sid

but the problem with MIOS still

Did you have a look at the MIDI Troubleshooting link (http://www.ucapps.de/howto_debug_midi.html)?

First, check all soldering points, then check component orientation, then go through the tests in the link above. I’would be more specific if I could but without any more info it’s impossible. I know it can be frustrating, but as Torsten wrote, try to isolate one problem at a time.

Keep up the work!

/offe

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Could you please write down the checksum of each block which has been uploaded? This info is print by MIOS Studio during the upload. It would allow us to doublecheck, if this procedure was really successful.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

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Could you please write down the checksum of each block which has been uploaded? This info is print by MIOS Studio during the upload. It would allow us to doublecheck, if this procedure was really successful.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

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Could you please write down the checksum of each block which has been uploaded? This info is print by MIOS Studio during the upload. It would allow us to doublecheck, if this procedure was really successful.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

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sorry guys if i’m answering so late but today i was out of town, anyway yes, last night i tryed also with the midi troubleshooting

and i will try again later because i’m far from my box now

apparently everything was allright…

i’ll let you know tomorrow, today i’m a bit messed

thanx again