MidiBox Cool Diy Device But Only For C-Code Experts

Antichambre · December 9, 2017, 7:55am

13 hours ago, Antichambre said:

i (still) don’t think so it is possible complete a MidiBox by someone without electronics natural talent

Yes you’re right! Coding, electronics , etc… Here, we are all genius, exceptional people. Anyone who already built a Box and play with it, have a consequent background in a lot of domain. We are all individually, experts in C(all languages in fact), we all speak a minimum of 6 languages, we have all an innate gift in electronic, with an unbelievable capacity in engineering, design and development in general. We are all music professional, of course! We are all extremely good at our hands too. For example, last week I was in Cambodia for an open-heart operation on a 5-year-old child, I saved him. Now I’m resting a bit but I’m leaving next week, I have to finish plans and model of the future highest tower in the world, … And it’s the same for everybody here.

11 hours ago, zener said:

any day is a challenge (in these times…)

Sorry, but for us life is easy, we are a secret society… But You got us! Welcome!

zener · December 9, 2017, 10:23am

14 hours ago, latigid on said:

…. we look forward to seeing your first MIDIbox in action soon!

So Thanks “Latigid On” !

( I’m trying to work on it )

2 hours ago, Antichambre said:

Yes you’re right! Coding, electronics , etc… Here, we are all genius, exceptional people. Anyone who already built a Box and play with it, have a consequent background in a lot of domain. We are all individually, experts in C(all languages in fact), we all speak a minimum of 6 languages, we have all an innate gift in electronic, with an unbelievable capacity in engineering, design and development in general. We are all music professional, of course! We are all extremely good at our hands too. For example, last week I was in Cambodia for an open-heart operation on a 5-year-old child, I saved him. Now I’m resting a bit but I’m leaving next week, I have to finish plans and model of the future highest tower in the world, … And it’s the same for everybody here.

Sorry, but for us life is easy, we are a secret society… But You got us! Welcome!

Thanks for post “Antichambre” !

Happy to know all that you wrote in the post…, and happy for you too

(…it seem something like that "unknown paradise secret planet ", … also tax havens ? )

but “Jokes” aside , I seem to have mentioned only about electronics talent and talented guys ( dna ) .

the rest is out of the topic ,

Yess so true ! i’m so happy to have found this place !!! So endlessly Thanks “TK” to have created it !!!

And I would be even happier if it became a bit more “usable” as well for beginners (not electronics experts/talented/tutor assisted…)

before internet , youtube , and all other kind of today available free medias , all of this was impossible (i.m.h.o.)

is it not true that a video or a picture say what millions of words cannot ?

Ps:

The same “information” can be given in an easy way , understandable to all ,

and in a “complex/messy/wry/twisted” … and related ways …, understandable only for “some” ,

or also nobody (…… politicians typical style )

….“someone” said that there are no bad students but only bad teachers…

zener · February 1, 2018, 3:06pm

That i mean “video tutorial” (beginner-proof)

https://youtu.be/NmxoBdEJG28

goyousalukis · February 1, 2018, 6:25pm

My first project was a midibox 8 with 8 analog faders back around 2001. My advice would be to order some parts and get started. If you wait for someone to make a step by step video, you will never start. Just get a core, a digital in and a digital out PCB and a couple of encoders, buttons and leds. Once you get started, you will either figure it out or get frustrated and quit. The initial investment is pretty small, maybe $100-$150. If you aren’t willing to risk that to get started, then as others have said, this isn’t the place for you. I will tell you, the moment when you first start it up and get midi signals flowing into your computer, is a pretty neat experience.

zener · February 1, 2018, 7:28pm

24 minutes ago, goyousalukis said:

My first project was a midibox 8 with 8 analog faders back around 2001. My advice would be to order some parts and get started. If you wait for someone to make a step by step video, you will never start. Just get a core, a digital in and a digital out PCB and a couple of encoders, buttons and leds. Once you get started, you will either figure it out or get frustrated and quit. The initial investment is pretty small, maybe $100-$150. If you aren’t willing to risk that to get started, then as others have said, this isn’t the place for you. I will tell you, the moment when you first start it up and get midi signals flowing into your computer, is a pretty neat experience.

hello , and thanks for reply !

( I extremely envy your logo)

i posted the link only as well , about that i tried to say in what posted ,

considered the age of this place , a New arrival that visit for first time this nice place would expect some video tutorial ,

at least for “standard” settings , as showed in that video tutorial ,

moreover made by a guy that seem to do not have any economic interest about (banners apart).

goyousalukis · February 1, 2018, 7:39pm

Yes, there are tons of great videos out there now on all manner of things. You have to remember that the MidiBox goes back at least to 2001 when I first started building a verys simple midibox. Back then, youTube was in it’s infancy. You say the guy doesn’t have an economic interest, but the first thing to come up is an ad for his Patreon page where people can donate. I guarantee that he had an economic interest in the videos. I understand that you expect a video tutorial, but there isn’t one. So what are you going to do now?

Anyways, it is clear that we can’t change your mind - good luck!

zener · February 1, 2018, 7:55pm

Just now, goyousalukis said:

Yes, there are tons of great videos out there now on all manner of things. You have to remember that the MidiBox goes back at least to 2001 when I first started building a verys simple midibox. Back then, youTube was in it’s infancy. You say the guy doesn’t have an economic interest, but the first thing to come up is an ad for his Patreon page where people can donate. I guarantee that he had an economic interest in the videos. I understand that you expect a video tutorial, but there isn’t one. So what are you going to do now?

Anyways, it is clear that we can’t change your mind - good luck!

Ricercait was perhaps a student or teacher/method problem ?we would not have lost one of the genes of our times , if he had not met the right mentor ?

i agree : it can be a shame ..

but world change continuously ( evolution? , and in way of communication too )

and it will change again , better or worse, who can say? only the story ! (in spite of ourselves)

diversity is power ,

or are you for a clones world ? (in point oh views intended , in this thread , .. in the universe for the rest …)

i wrote (and i’m irremovably convinced ! ) that : t here is not bad students but only bad teachers !!!

the difference ? only and only and only… : The Method !!!

since you are on the side of the books (me too , but partially , new “media” greatly reduce learning time ,

..like : an image show what millions of words can not)

have you ever read the true story of Mr Electromagnetism ? (a.k.a. Michael Faraday )

it was perhaps a student or teacher/method problem ?

we would not have lost one of the genes of our times , if he had not met the right mentor ?

and how many others we have lost (and we will lose it again) thanks to “unsuitable” methods ?

returning a bit on the topic ,

want to recall the fact that the very big part of musician that uses electronic devices/instruments for make music ,

want spend the available time to make music ,

and a part of them agree to put a part of that time to make (or try to) a device that ( unfortunately still ) is not available on the market .

PS: probably the cooler side of …. ; )

11 hours ago, Antichambre said:

… “We are a secret society” …

Antichambre · February 2, 2018, 12:04pm

We agree on everything, we can continue to philosophize and stay in the abstract, but concretely when do you start?
If you used differently the time and the energy that you spent on this topic, your first box would already be finished I’m wrong?
Best!

eptheca · February 2, 2018, 1:18pm

1 hour ago, zener said:

returning a bit on the topic ,

want to recall the fact that the very big part of musician that uses electronic devices/instruments for make music ,

want spend the available time to make music

it sounds to me that you are into making electronic music, not electronics

this place is mostly for those that want to do both

I don’t think anybody here do this to save time or money. For many of us MIDIbox is a hobby / passion / obsession

If you need a MIDI controller, Novation makes one for every need

If you want a similar sequencer, Sequentix Cirklon seems like “the second best in class”

Phatline · February 2, 2018, 2:27pm

i am offically a artist. i pay social insurance for that. my time is free for midibox making music for contest cd website or gig. have a girlfriend spending lot of time in love. cooking and houshold on my own… and midibox coding planing building consume the rest of it. since i need the devices for a gig end of february i dont have time for tutorials… but when i have some spare time i would make some video doku-to see what to have done BUT not a detailt tutorial for that it is to much information. but i think in german and for a mios based uset project so it would help only a small group anyway. so i have to rethink it i also dont have the best cam equipment nor mony for that..

maybe this and others is a reason that there are no video tuts outthere ,

Antichambre · February 2, 2018, 2:42pm

Nobody has the time and the technical means to do it all, for free.
You will notice that despite that we take the time to answer you, which is to our credit.
Now stop procrastinating and start! You will see that we are perhaps not the best teacher in the world, but you will always find someone to help you here !!!
Again, if you do not try, you’ll never know if all you’re told is true!
These are my last words on this subject.

Best regards
Bruno

goyousalukis · February 2, 2018, 2:59pm

How many times do we have to tell you that NO C coding is required to build and use a MidiBox? Thorsten has done all the work for us. Yes, there are members on here that edit the source code for their own purposes, but I would wager that that is less than 10% of the people who build midiboxes.

zener · February 3, 2018, 12:46pm

On 01 febbraio 2018 at 1:06 AM, Antichambre said:

On 01 febbraio 2018 at 2:18 PM, eptheca said:

it sounds to me that you are into making electronic music, not electronics

this place is mostly for those that want to do both

I don’t think anybody here do this to save time or money. For many of us MIDIbox is a hobby / passion / obsession

If you need a MIDI controller, Novation makes one for every need

If you want a similar sequencer, Sequentix Cirklon seems like “the second best in class”

Thanks for post eptheca , ( your “sunglasses” are so cool )

Novation ? No ! do not have nothing similar to that required ,

i checked all most knowed manufacturers unfortunately no one have a device as required , (otherwise I would not be here to talk about , but to doing / making music with that device)

Have also to say that Mpc “high” series models apart , the rest are all low cost plastic and parts ….so not pro range devices …, so No thanks !!!

Cirklon not so bad tool as concept and device , well built ! But in my humble opinion need a good development / evolution ,

because the layers concept of parameters block type can be good for save money for data entry parts like potentiometers , buttons , displays , surface panel , and related,

but is a big “Handicap” for fast access to specific parameters edit , that is essential for live performances ,

in a home or studio situation there is all the time to stop ,

-> go to parameters block page ,

-> search the parameter ,

-> edit it and back to play .

in a Live performance : NOT !

And why an hardware sequencer in studio ?

To spend lot of more time than a software sequencer computer based for do the same things ? ( or less )

For me and so many many many other musicians do not have any sense !!!

Apart save as midi file and put it in the hardware sequencer ,

So Sorry !!

Zam · February 3, 2018, 5:28pm

Zener… with all respect… I start thinking you are just a troll here …

TWO page with ppl gently responding to you, trying to help.

You still complaining whatever we say.

As others, I’m out of this topic. Hope I’ll see you in another one with REAL midibox in your hand.

Best

Zam