MBSID V2 (8xSID+8xMoog): The Rutger Edition

Hi midiboxers,

I’ve been building an MBSID V2 some time ago, but after I finished it I spent all my time on playing and developing an editor for it. Now I finally have the time to share pictures of the construction process, the end result and a sound demo with you!

The specs:

* MBSID V2 with 4 cores

* 8x SID (types 8580 and 6582)

* 8x Moog ladder filter (1 per SID)

* AOUT_LC modules to control Cutoff and Resonance of the Moog filters

* Stereo mixer and headphone amplifier

* 2x analog input (to first 2 Moog filters for processing external signals)

The first 4 pictures show:

  1. The plain double sided PCB (own design, manufactures at www.goldphoenixpcb.biz)

  2. Halfway populating the PCB (power supply already finished)

  3. Transformers for the power supply mounted in a 19" enclosure

  4. Display module with home made transparent (LED-lighted) pushbuttons

Best,

Rutger

And some more pictures:

  1. The inside of my MBSID V2 (the upper part shows 8 SID’s on a row, the bottom part the 8 Moog filters on a row. On the right hand side the transformers and the power supply can be seen.)

  2. The final version in my rack with the frontpanel in place!

  3. The final version in my (new) rack with the power on!

  4. Same thing in the dark!

Best,

Rutger

ps. The ‘product number’ TR-3, as mentioned on the frontpanel, is a slight hint to the people that made this thing possible:

Thorsten

Rick (Jansen)

Robert (Moog)

Rutger

And finally a sound demo!

Note:

* All sounds except drums come from the MBSID V2

* No EQ’s or FX’s were used except for a little reverb and delay on the master mix

* All sounds were designed with the MBSID V2 Editor :slight_smile:

Enjoy!

Rutger

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[me=nILS Podewski]bows to rutger[/me]

I am impressed!

Whoa. :o

uhm… yeh. Whoa.

!!!

That thing is so awesome, I’m sort of at a loss for words, except perhaps:

Wow that’s damned impressive!

Very impressive! It’s fascinating to see another variation on the all-in-one 8-SID board.

Those illuminated buttons are great, too.

Great work!!

a|x

Whoa.

I’m sort of at a loss for words

Great customisation and impressive demo!!! :slight_smile:

The mp3 can now be downloaded directly from the server:

http://www.midibox.org/users/rutgerv/SIDv2_demo.mp3

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Jesus H Christ! I think a token offering of some burnt out regulators is in order for such a god like vision!

very impressed!

Regards

Mike

Very impressive piece of hardware. :slight_smile:

So, are you keeping the schematics etc. to yourself, or are you going to share? :wink:

I’m sure a lot of people would very much to build a MIDI-controllable moog filter… :slight_smile:

Rutger, that’s a fantastic machine :o Glad you finally finished it. I also think your demo tune is just great, you should definitely do an extended version of it that doesn’t end so abruptly :slight_smile:

oh and btw, please also share your mbsid patches as you’re obviously one of the few people who doesn’t just use the presets :wink:

S

After seeing this one develop over what seems like years :slight_smile: it’s great to see the finished box… Congratulations Rutger!

Hi everyone,

thanks for the positive comments! Thanks to TK for making this possible and putting my MBSID up as Midibox of the week.

So, are you keeping the schematics etc. to yourself, or are you going to share? :wink:

I’m sure a lot of people would very much to build a MIDI-controllable moog filter… :slight_smile:

I considered sharing the schematics and PCB layout, but I decided not to do so at the moment. There are a couple of flaws in the prototype that I fixed manually, but I haven’t updated my schematics and PCB layout. Doing so would require alot of work and time. If I would put it up as is, I would probably have to give alot of support with it as well. The other thing is that the PCB was customized for parts that I had lying around (some spare cooling blocks for the regulators and stuff). This would probably not fit for anyone else, unless you happen to have the same spare parts lying around.

However, I’d be happy to share knowledge from this design with you. It’s basically just Thorsten’s schematics in a different layout with included AOUT_LC modules, modified Moog filter (Rick Janssen schematic), PSU and mixer/headphone module. The headphone-mixer was inspired by a schematic from musicfromouterspace.com (although modified quite a bit). The biggest ‘novelty’ is probably the addition of an extra VCA circuit in the Moog filter design to make the resonance controllable with CV from the AOUT_LC.

Best,

Rutger

I’m speechless.. awesome work!

If you release the layout publicly, be prepared to see it on ebay. I’d advise against it, as much as I f***in HATE to say that :frowning:

*Explodes

congratulations on such an epic feat Rutger!  I’m speechless.

Which of the synths that we hear in the demo are sids?

Stryd, maybe it would be a good idea  for Tk and some other high ranking dudes to store the layout in his safe, incase theses interest for a bulk order in the future!

Well I was going to say that and I thought maybe I might sound pushy, but thankyou for breaking the ice. Yeh I think it would be very cool if the info was mailed to someone for safekeeping. In the past have grabbed copies of stuff, which have later proven very handy :wink:

Which of the synths that we hear in the demo are sids?

* All sounds except drums come from the MBSID V2

The sounddemo sounds heavily inspired by the old amiga/pc mod days. Stuff from the guys of Future Crew Unreal Vector Demo and Second Reality come to mind (Skaven and Purple Motion or so?)

Nice nice nice :smiley: Out of curiosity, been a demoscener Rutger?

Oh yeah, not to end up entirely off-topic: I had to have a good look first because I thought it was YAMB-6582, but it’s actually home designed! Impressive.