Effect pedal, MIDI on a Jack.[SOLVED]

What is ISO cable? Regular MIDI one?
 

2 hours ago, Moulin said:

could it make sense to rewire the Midi plug instead of messing with the controller?

Which plug?

3 hours ago, Antichambre said:

What is ISO cable? Regular MIDI one?
 

Which plug?

jep, the regular 5 pin Midi one, however they are called :slight_smile:

Forget the other question, I did not understand the pin 2 shield thing first. I was just confused since I assume the normal Midi cables also have the ground on pin 2 so why would ground not be used? But meanwhile I got it.

Here is a normal MIDI interface schematic.

As you can see ground is only on pin 2 of the MIDI outputs.

I think your problem is that the chase bliss has no optocoupler input and doesn’t get the signal between the regular pin 4 and 5(between signal and 5V) but between 4 and 2(signal and ground).
if no ground is provided on pin 2 of your controller then the pin4(signal) has no reference.

Before open the controller check the continuity between midi out pin 2 and another ground, e.g. sleeve of the XPDL jack

If there’s nothing then open the enclosure and add it…

I checked the continuity of pin 2 on the Musicomlab and the sleeve of the plugged XPDL TRS. I get some ohms on the display. Looks like pin 2 is grounded???

Also I tried sending PC from the DAW to the CBA through my Audio interface. Doesn’t work. However it works with another pedal.

WTF!!!

So I don’t know.
Try to change the MIDI channel according to its MIDI manual.

8 hours ago, Antichambre said:

So I don’t know.
Try to change the MIDI channel according to its MIDI manual.

I think it is now evident that the problem is the missing opto-coupler.

Hey there,

I have a Meris Ottobit jr. I´d like to control.

First I used an Elektron Cycles which has 3.5mm Midi I/O. Using a TRS cable TX works (CC & PC).

For being able to TX/RX, I built the cable (as described by Bruno, with Pin 4 bridged).

Plugging that to my RME Fireface UC I get RX (from Pedal) but cannot TX!

Using a Behringer BFCF000 I can TX but get no RX!!

So I got myself an iConnectivity mioXL today - neither RX nor TX!!!

Taking the Elektron again for testing both RX/TX work with the built cable (but can´t use this as an interface).

Any ideas on that?  …or is it just chance?

Thanks,

best

Tim

15 hours ago, tense said:

Any ideas on that?  …or is it just chance?

On my side it works with a MOTU fastlane or both MTPAV(old and USB model)
I think there’s no rule, here I tried to find a workaround to avoid commercial boxes, I never said it will work without exception :wink:
Still better to buy or build one of this active boxes, with optocoupler inside.

BR
Bruno

Ah, no complains from here!

Thanks for caring.

Seems like there exist a bunch of standard midi implementations.

Just ordered the Conduit - hope that works.

Best,

Tim

On 6/10/2022 at 10:36 PM, tense said:

Ah, no complains from here!

Thanks for caring.

Seems like there exist a bunch of standard midi implementations.

Just ordered the Conduit - hope that works.

Best,

Tim

Something you can do is using the shield as ground, some recent machines doesn’t provide GND on Midi out pin 2, there’s a chance shield is connected, this cable adaptation needs the GND to work properly.
There’s some explanation about it above in the thread.