# Will these Illuminated Encoders work?
**URL:** https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676
**Category:** Parts Questions
**Created:** [November 9, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676 "2014-11-09T18:13:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Suloo](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Suloo)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676/1 "2014-11-09T18:13:08Z")
Hello,
i`m new to DIY midi controlers, but am interested in building a box with 16 encoders and two buttons for paging the encoders to the next or previous 16 CC messages.
Also i would like to have two additional buttons for other purposes.
I want to use the CORE\_STM32F4 Module
[http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp\_core\_stm32f4.html](http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_core_stm32f4.html)
and two of these DIN X4\_ V2 modules
[http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp\_din.html](http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_din.html)
What i now am wondering about is wether these encoders would be suitable for that build and if anyone has experience further readings or anything else related to these encoders.
Any help or information would be great.
Did anyone of you use them in a project?
[http://www.cliffuk.co.uk/products/encoders/index.htm](http://www.cliffuk.co.uk/products/encoders/index.htm)
many thanks!
Mark
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### Author:  [@T.K](https://forum.midibox.org/u/T.K)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676/2 "2014-11-09T21:42:41Z")
Hi Mark,
the encoder spec ([http://www.cliffuk.co.uk/products/encoders/EncoderSpec.pdf](http://www.cliffuk.co.uk/products/encoders/EncoderSpec.pdf)) looks fine, it will work π
Note that MIDIbox NG allows to connect up to 16 buttons to J10A/B, see also this configuration example: [http://svnmios.midibox.org/filedetails.php?repname=svn.mios32&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fapps%2Fcontrollers%2Fmidibox\_ng\_v1%2Fcfg%2Ftests%2Fdiocfg\_1.ngc](http://svnmios.midibox.org/filedetails.php?repname=svn.mios32&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fapps%2Fcontrollers%2Fmidibox_ng_v1%2Fcfg%2Ftests%2Fdiocfg_1.ngc)
This means that you only need a single MBHP\_DINX4 module for 16 encoders, the two buttons can be connected to J10A.D0 and D1, and with βDIO port=J10A emu\_din\_sr=5β they will be available as BUTTON:33 and BUTTON:34
Best Regards, Thorsten.
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### Author:  [@Suloo](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Suloo)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2014, 9:19am UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676/3 "2014-11-10T09:19:58Z")
Hi Thorsten,
super, thx for your response.
I still wonder because of LEDs. Since i would like to use the bi-colored once. Green/Blue, i would need two additional inputs for each encoder right? Plus the switch also got its own circuit i guess. So 3 additional inputs. This wont be possible with just one DIN X4 module right?
Also i found this ones here: [http://at.rs-online.com/web/c/?searchTerm=tyco+encoder](http://at.rs-online.com/web/c/?searchTerm=tyco+encoder)
They are the same i think, just another vendor but located in Austria, wich is good for me, since im located in germany.
Here are the specs:
[http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0ccf/0900766b80ccf883.pdf](http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0ccf/0900766b80ccf883.pdf)
Would these also work?
What i also wonder is if i should use the ones with a flatted or knurled shaft. Any ideas? I don`t know wich one is for what.
And if i would need the vertical ones or horizontal ones.
cheers
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### Author:  [@novski](https://forum.midibox.org/u/novski)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676/4 "2014-11-10T18:26:42Z")
Hi suloo I once made a pcb for RGB colored encoders. You can find the compleete dokumentation in the wikipages: [http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=fadercore\_-\_vlr-8enc](http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=fadercore_-_vlr-8enc) Feel free to download the Eagle files an expand it to 16β¦ Best regards Novski
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### Author:  [@T.K](https://forum.midibox.org/u/T.K)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676/5 "2014-11-10T21:58:53Z")
Canβt give you a better reference project than Novski π
Best Regards, Thorsten.
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### Author:  [@Suloo](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Suloo)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/will-these-illuminated-encoders-work/18676/6 "2014-11-11T00:29:57Z")
Wow, nice one! That looks awesome. I also thought about a motorfader controler for the next project. hm π
Will check that one out for sure. Thx!