My Five Dollars and Two Cents:
I made some changes to clarify the home page.
Thanks dude always encouraged :) I also think that I like about 90% of what you’ve done in this particular instance, so thanks 
I think that when you are making small changes, here and there, it is OK to just go ahead - and I don’t want to discourage anyone from updating the wiki any time they see fit. I think the final rule is always that it can be rolled back to the original, so go crazy. Just don’t take it personal if someone trashes all your changes ;D
That said, maybe when making such large, high profile changes, especially with regard to projects or documentation where any person has invested a good deal of effort, it may be best to put a quick post here to see if it’s OK. I would maybe recommend making a copy of the page you intend to replace, and editing that and presenting it on the forum for opinions. We can come back to these ideas later…
- I tidied up lots of wordings
Cool. Linguistics are tricky in such a a varied international community, so any clarifications are good.
- I moved “projects” to be closer to the beginning (because I think a new reader would be more likely to first want to see what a MIDIbox can do than be faced with 15 dogmatic links about DIY)
The dogmatism is in such an obvious place with good reason 
Without it, what happens is, people read half of it, get all excited about the fully sick MBFM, come to the forum asking questions that are answered later on in the page they are half way through reading, and then we tell them to read more, and they take it personally and get all offended, and then we have another thread where we explain at length that we really aren’t bastards, just that we know the best answer is already written down :
;D
We’ll come back to this subject later too…
- I took the links to individual user projects off the home page. They are already linked from the “user projects” page. The home page has been getting far too busy - too many links and options make it less useful because it is not readable from top to bottom. User projects are great, and important, but they tend to be more “specialized”, and extensive background documentation is not available from TK or ucapps.
I know what you mean, but I said I’d come back to this… I think that before you slice a bunch of people’s stuff up you prooobably should ask first. I do know what you mean, but yeh. That wasn’t yours, hands off ;D If you want some solid background documentation you can feel free to come and be my typist for a few weeks 
This is why editing on the wiki is encouraged.
I don’t think that relegating pages to a deeper level in the tree due to lack of supporting documentation is the solution, I think increasing the documentation is the solution.
I don’t think that relegating pages to a deeper level in the tree due to being of a specialised nature is the solution, I think that’s the problem - people with specialised requirements will have looked a lot and are less likely to bury themselves in the wiki to keep searching - they need it up top.
- I took the links to the core board parts list, ain parts list, and din parts list off the home page and instead added those links to the main pages for their respective boards. Those 3 parts lists are the only ones of their kind I have seen on the Wiki, so it is not complete enough of a package to be on the home page.
Agreed here.
Please forgive me if anybody feels I have slighted them by trying to organize this. I want to help make this documentation more clear, concise, and logically organized.
No harm no foul Hehehe
That’s actually not what I meant to say, but I thought I’d add…it is like saying “No harm was done, so there is no problem to speak of”
I would like to suggest, prior to adding links to the home page, to consider whether that link really belongs at the “top level” of the MIDIbox Wiki. If you create a new page, think along the lines of “where will a user be when they want this information”, and put links to your page there.
True. I think that after some time to ‘evolve’ the wiki structure becomes obvious and links will naturally move to a more logical position anyway, as with your links mentioned above
One thing that often bothers me about the MIDIbox forums is that newbs are often openly lambasted for asking for information that is documented somewhere, but they couldn’t find.
Unfortunately, sometimes we do roast someone who has searched and searched to no avail. Most of the time, the sad reality is that we roast people because the questions they ask make it obvious that they have not made sufficient effort in their search… It’s usually easy to spot the people who posted before spending a significant time reading. Sometimes I get it wrong, and you’ll know when that’s the case, cause you’ll see me apologise Most of the time, we end up defending ourselves. See I told you I’d come back to that
This clearly demonstrates a need for a more organized Wiki.
That is true though, and help with that task is always encouraged, so thanks again
What we lack, unfortunately, is a “talk” page attached to every entry like Wikipedia has. <SNIP> In the absence of such a mechanism, this forum (“MIDIbox documentation project”) is likely a good place for such discussions.
That’s the idea!
i’ll tell you what i meant: the home page became a mishmash of unrelated info, including lots of stuff a person coming to the wiki wouldn’t be looking for from the home page.
Well that depends on the person. What if they’re looking for a sensor project or drum machine or algo sequencer? ;D
Like many people, I find myself skimming documents until i find the section i want, and then looking more closely.
You’re assuming that the reader is already someone who wants to invest time in the midibox documentation like you do and like I do. Maybe they’re checking it out to see whether they want to do that kind of reading or skip to the next site? I like your edits but I think that is the core failing in your adjustments - you’ve edited too much with your own perspective and not the perspectives of other possible readers.
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MMmmm peanuts.
What? Oh -
if you can’t wait for that change, feel free to do it yourself, but … i did put some hours into this and i have a vision, so i’d appreciate your patience.
This is where (See, I came back to it, eventually) a copy of the original is a very good idea - no harm editing the wiki but leaving it mid-edit in public spaces is a bit intrusive.
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I think that’s a bloody good effort for a dude of 100 posts!!