# TM 4 BLM16 - TriggerMatrix remote via BLM16x16x

**URL:** <https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379>\
**Category:** MIDIbox User Projects\
**Tags:** blm, triggermatrix\
**Created:** [January 6, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379 "2016-01-06T15:15:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/user_avatar/forum.midibox.org/phatline/32/501_2.png) [@Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Phatline)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379/1 "2016-01-06T15:15:30Z")

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**V01.0 is up and Running \>\>\>** [160117\_TM4BLM\_V01.0.zip](\< _ **base\_url** _ \>/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=12524)

old versions:

BLM-Scalar-Communication: BLM-UI @ skelleton level… no Midiprocessing @ all but some basic Matrix-Userinterface Code (for programmers only…stripped down a bit…)[\>\>\> 160110\_blm\_scalar\_communication.zip](https://midibox.org/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=12505)

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**first a view vocables:**

TM short for TriggerMatrix? \>

BLM16x16x short for ButtonLedMatrix?&nbsp; \>

Usage? \>

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**The Trigger Matrix is the Midi-Center in my Live-Music-Equipment, it interconnect follwing Device-groups:**

I will remote my Triggermatrix-Project via the BLM16x16x, they are comunicating together via Midi:

**Programming-Equipment:**

 ![Test-Setup-V01.0.JPG.2c792d24202aa3653477a209b09ee2bf.JPG](https://forum.midibox.org/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e1af0ff7fc90a646d03e40dd44709e88892aa79f.jpeg)

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**BLM Layout 4 the Perform-Mode, the 2nd Mode is the EDIT-Mode, where i can change the Trigger-Routing (not displayed here)**

 ![BLM-layout-.jpg.540ce3bfd1d14e830d3fd42f09f5cd9c.jpg](https://forum.midibox.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b9b57e6438f083f0a3731132b357df5635012644.jpeg)

Melody Retrigger, take the incoming Melody Notes from the Keyboard and trigger it with the Incoming DrumTriggers

Drum-Trigs are simple Trigger-Routes

**The 4 Pots on the BLM are not used (since i removed them)**

2x 2x40LCD + 17 Encoders + 2 Buttons are the UI 4 the TM, the rest is controlled via BLM

thx to TK and his BLM-Driver… it works simple and fast as hell now… also code is reduced much…factor 50 or more…

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_work in process_

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**Author:** ![Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/user_avatar/forum.midibox.org/phatline/32/501_2.png) [@Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Phatline)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379/2 "2016-01-15T22:42:26Z")

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**UI-Updates on the TriggerMatrix-Side:**

from a bulk-order i have more then enough 2x40? LCDs…good point to make something with it

use this crimp-able Connectors:

 ![2ndDisplay.JPG.c4812acf5bb5f6a098dac3ded517940d.JPG](https://forum.midibox.org/uploads/default/original/2X/0/05bcefe8734a4a0ce633759583d2ad033fd11f42.jpeg)

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**1st Display (up)**, Deep edit things - like give the track a name, or change the ProgramChange-Bank, or load tracks, or LiveSets (in Future)

**2nd Display (down),** Fast Access -Performance, like Random-Kill, Decay-Time, Velocity Offset - there are 2x4 Encoder because, i split the whole output-Matrix in 2 Parts:

Line0: Melody Retrigger-Parts&nbsp;&nbsp; (Bass, Lead,&nbsp; Space Synths, Samplers)

Line1: Mono&nbsp;&nbsp; Retrigger-Parts&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (for Drums, Filters usw)

i want to perform them separately, with much space for my fingers…a 2x4 LED-Bar-Encoder Board would be nice instead!

 ![Local-UI.JPG.e88b3f9a6d5fb1bf2101e4e4a5a11f2c.JPG](https://forum.midibox.org/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5294ac6af2fde1463805602a5f1dc9a46bc58fd1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/user_avatar/forum.midibox.org/phatline/32/501_2.png) [@Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Phatline)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379/3 "2016-01-17T03:29:02Z")

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[![](https://forum.midibox.org/uploads/default/original/2X/6/69b88c85bac066be12628c304934df63cd2ffada.jpeg "TM4BLM - Trigger Matrix For Button LED Matrix - Note Processing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1daiaBg6EI)

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**Author:** ![Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/user_avatar/forum.midibox.org/phatline/32/501_2.png) [@Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Phatline)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379/4 "2016-03-25T22:59:51Z")

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since i had a MB-SEQ-CS-PCB many years now - unused, without any case or frontpanel…

i decidet to hold it and use it

i **programm now a TriggerMatrix version for a more generic UI** …&nbsp; so other people can “reUse” it, i skip my prototype UI.

BLM16x16+x ( )

MB-SEQ-CS ( )

MB-LRE8x2CS ( )

To adapt my code i had to find out the pin-out of the new UI… here is the result:

| TriggerMatrix @ Generic |  
| &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | **MB-SEQ CS** |  
| SEQ | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | MENU – ENCODERS |  
| 62 | &nbsp; | 54 | &nbsp; | ENC | 0 | &nbsp; | 1 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 3 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 5 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 7 | &nbsp; | 8 | &nbsp; | 9 | &nbsp; | 10 | &nbsp; | 11 | &nbsp; | 12 | &nbsp; | 13 | &nbsp; | 14 | &nbsp; | 15 | &nbsp; |  
| 59 | 50 | SR | 1 | &nbsp; | 1 | &nbsp; | 1 | &nbsp; | 1 | &nbsp; | 3 | &nbsp; | 3 | &nbsp; | 3 | &nbsp; | 3 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 5 | &nbsp; | 5 | &nbsp; | 5 | &nbsp; | 5 | &nbsp; |  
| SWING | &nbsp; | PIN | 6 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; |  
| 63 | &nbsp; | 55 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| 58 | 49 | ENC | 16 | JOG | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| ROUTE | FullVel | SR | 6 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| 46 | &nbsp; | 38 | &nbsp; | PIN | 2 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| 57 | 34 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| CC | SetVel | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | BLM+x |  
| 47 | &nbsp; | 39 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 32 | 33 | 40 | 41 | 48 | 49 | 56 | 57 | 24 | 25 | 16 | 17 | 8 | 9 | 0 | 1 |  
| 56 | 33 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 39 | 38 | 37 | 36 | 47 | 46 | 45 | 44 | 55 | 54 | 53 | 52 | 63 | 62 | 61 | 60 | 31 | 30 | 29 | 28 | 23 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 |  
| &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | Intro | Vel-Inv | QntRec | Swing | Copy | Paste | Clear | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | \<Move | Move\> | STORE | LOAD | Qnt16 | Qnt32 | Qnt64 |  
| Kill Hi | Set Hi | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 35 | &nbsp; | 42 | &nbsp; | 43 | &nbsp; | 50 | &nbsp; | 51 | &nbsp; | 58 | &nbsp; | 59 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 26 | &nbsp; | 27 | &nbsp; | 18 | &nbsp; | 19 | &nbsp; | 10 | &nbsp; | 11 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; |  
| 14 | &nbsp; | 30 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 35 | &nbsp; | 43 | &nbsp; | 42 | &nbsp; | 51 | &nbsp; | PAGE | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| 10 | 26 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | Copy | Paste | Clear | &nbsp; | BEAT | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | STOP | PLAY | REC | \< | \> | \< \> |  
| Kill Mid | Set Mid | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 37 | &nbsp; | 44 | &nbsp; | 45 | &nbsp; | 52 | &nbsp; | 53 | &nbsp; | 60 | &nbsp; | 61 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 1 | &nbsp; | 28 | &nbsp; | 29 | &nbsp; | 20 | &nbsp; | 21 | &nbsp; | 12 | &nbsp; | 13 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; |  
| 15 | &nbsp; | 31 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 0? | &nbsp; | 41 | &nbsp; | 40 | &nbsp; | 48 | &nbsp; | FOCUS | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | 18 | &nbsp; | 19 | &nbsp; | 11 | &nbsp; | 3 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; |  
| 9 | 25 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| Kill Lo | Set Lo | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | **MB-LRE8x2 CS 2.5 in seriell to MB-SEQ CS Wilba** | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| 6 | &nbsp; | 22 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | ENC | Kill\_M | Dcy\_M | Vel\_M | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | Delay | Swn16 | Swn32 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | BTN | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| 8 | 24 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | SR | 7 | &nbsp; | 7 | &nbsp; | 8 | &nbsp; | 8 | &nbsp; | 9 | &nbsp; | 9 | &nbsp; | 10 | &nbsp; | 10 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | LED | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | PIN | 0 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | 0 | &nbsp; | 4 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | ENC | Kill\_D | Dcy\_D | Vel\_D | Kill\_T | FullVel | Vel\_Lo | Vel\_Mi | Vel\_Hi | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | SR | 7 | &nbsp; | 7 | &nbsp; | 8 | &nbsp; | 8 | &nbsp; | 9 | &nbsp; | 9 | &nbsp; | 10 | &nbsp; | 10 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |  
| &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | PIN | 2 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | 2 | &nbsp; | 6 | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; | &nbsp; |

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programming setup:

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**Author:** ![Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/user_avatar/forum.midibox.org/phatline/32/501_2.png) [@Phatline](https://forum.midibox.org/u/Phatline)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 11:20am UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379/5 "2016-03-29T11:20:23Z")

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a jam session with the old UI:

[![](https://forum.midibox.org/uploads/default/original/2X/2/28bdaa61f9ee3125e1cf06cd486a13de9d6159e3.jpeg "crimic - glaube (JAM 160326)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mn4gqExeMg)

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Triggermatrix as DrumSequencer, Trigger-Router, Melody-Retrigger \> Soundengine: Nord3(efx), NordDrum2, KorgER2

2x Boss RC300 as Loopstation for Melody Loops (Subouts are routed to my filterdistortionADR-Drumtriggered-device…)

LiveGituar on a Gutiarsynth RC20 (that makes them etnical sounds, no not the drums they are typical NordDrum2 yesss)

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**Author:** ![latigid\_on](https://forum.midibox.org/user_avatar/forum.midibox.org/latigid_on/32/107_2.png) [@latigid\_on](https://forum.midibox.org/u/latigid_on)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.midibox.org/t/tm-4-blm16-triggermatrix-remote-via-blm16x16x/19379/6 "2016-03-29T17:00:04Z")

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Looks like a really nice setup! Also good work on the BLM reimagination.&nbsp;