Simple DIY Compression?

I’m looking for suggestions for a small, cheap and simple DIY compressor design.  I’d like to build 8 into a shallow 1U rack, hence the small, simple and cheap.  More if I can fit them.

These would be used on individual analogue drum voices, pre-mix.  Something dead simple as far as user controls go too - like one knob per channel ;D or none …

Line level synth type signals, not guitar, but range would be an advantage.  Running from DC power would be nice.

One thought I’ve had is to mod the Oatley valve pre kit with gain and volume.  The board might look big but 2/3 of that is the power supply, which will run 2 pres.  It’s a little pricier than I was hoping, and they’ve taken the schematic and PCB artwork down from the site >:(

Did I mention it should sound nice?

hi,

you can see here:

http://www.thatcorp.com/aneng.html

this chips are used in a lot of pro-gear, as DBX..

That’s not a bad suggestion.  The 4301 is available in DIP.  Profusion have them for ~5 UKP in small quantities.  And there are two unassigned op-amps on board (hello filter?) 

combines in a single IC,all the active circuitry needed to construct a wide range of dynamic processors. / exponentially-controlled VCA, a log-responding RMS-level sensor and three general purpose op-amps.

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The combination of exponential VCA gain control and logarithmic detector response (‘decibel-linear’ response) simplifies the control path mathematics of the dynamics processors. This makes it easy to design audio compressors, limiters, gates, expanders, de-essers, duckers, noise reduction systems and the like./

sounds intresting, cant wait for the MB-FX gear :wink:

And there are two unassigned op-amps on board

Sorry, but the two op-amps in the chip are available to transform the log RMS-level sensor signal in a compression level signal to feed to the internal VCA… IIRC you need one op-amp to compare to your compression threshold and one to adjust it according to your compression level. Just look at the typical application in the datasheet.

However this makes a simple compression to build. This chip is so great! This is also on my todo list :slight_smile: I would like to make a digitally-controlled compression. So if you go the That way please share your experience!

Best regards, Didier.

Yeh, interesting indeed. If you wan a local partner in crime just shout bud.

Something worth noting: (Bolded by me)

  1. More information on this compressor design, along with suggestions for converting it to soft-knee operation ,

is given in AN100, Basic Compressor Limiter Design. The designs in AN100 are based on THAT Corporation’s

2150-Series VCAs and 2252 RMS Detector, but are readily adaptable to the 4301 with only minor modifications. In

fact, the circuit presented here is functionally identical to the hard-knee circuit published in AN100.

That’s a must, IMO.

Yeah I do agree :slight_smile: But that is a pity there is no adjustable attack and release time in their typical design…

Hehehe! I’m weak! :slight_smile:

mmm, even just a fast/slow switch would be nice…

.. what about the tonepad compressors?

http://www.tonepad.com/

they are designed for guitars but you can just adapt them easily

simone

stryd:  you’re on buddy.

Let’s say I wanted the ultra-ultra-cheapest comp possible:  a light bulb and an LDR? optocoupler design?

/edit/  The DOD 280 optical comp from tonepad fits the bill.  And it’s pretty darn small.

Yeah I do agree :slight_smile: But that is a pity there is no adjustable attack and release time in their typical design

Check out their “full featured compressor” PDF

they are designed for guitars but you can just adapt them easily

What’s the difference, and what’s involved in making the change?  The word “impedance” springs to mind…

Now I’m picturing a 1U case with in/out jacks on the back panel, soldered to an edge connector … small FX boards plug in to the edge connectors.  Another edge connector on the front end of the card connects to unlabelled pots on the front panel, with a scribble strip above them for labelling.

I also founf some more compressor ICs at Smallbear

What’s the difference, and what’s involved in making the change?  The word “impedance” springs to mind…

yep!

I also founf some more compressor ICs at Smallbear

smallbear is the natural spouse for tonepad projects

simone

yep!

Hahaha very informative :wink:

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What’s the difference, and what’s involved in making the change?  The word “impedance” springs to mind…

yep!

Hahaha very informative Wink

that s the answer when you have a 85 cm human being around asking for winnie the pooh, hold on she ll tell ya..

yu dvbhhhhhhhhggggggggggd

see?  :wink:

After discussions in chat (thanks bugfight and stryd_one) it looks like a combination of the DOD 280 and Ken Stone’s Stomp Box adapter is a reasonable build

Ken Stone’s Stomp Box adapter

YAY!! (Finally a straight answer :smiley: )

the DOD 280

Yucky. What about the what comp? that looked much nicer.

I am interested in building Ken Stone Adapter myself but seams all the links from the page are broken. Are these PCBs artworks freely available as that DOD 280 compressor? Somebody tried DOD 280? Is there any other tonepad FX that some of you liked using with synths?

EDIT: Are there any disadvantages using LED and LDR instead of optoelement?

As this Stomp Box Adapter PCB is pretty simple I redraw it in Corel and EPS file is attached in this post. I dont know is it legal as I didnt find PCB artwork published, but as the schematic is free I hope this could be too. Hope You`ll find it useful.

[adapter.zip](< base_url >/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=669)

[adapter.zip](< base_url >/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=3811)

hi

Is there any other tonepad FX that some of you liked using with synths?

nothing is crunchier than a http://www.tonepad.com/project.asp?id=23 tube preamp circuit with a quality tube stuffed in it.

I plan to make a stereo one as soon as i ll get some free time!

Yucky. What about the what comp? that looked much nicer.

Sure.  But unless I can get this under $30 a channel, it’s not worth the bother.  I might as well pick up a few Borrowerhingers.  I might stretch the budget a bit to go tubular

Take a look PicoCompressor.

I’ve just built the stereo for final mixes and live work - a really good piece of design, (though contains a few mad resistor values). Pro quality kit, boards have good part spacing, proper ground planes, and go together well.