I voted for option 3. My Korg Electribe EA-1 stores a grand total of ONE sequence per patch, so 8 is just luxury. Mind you, they’re four bars (64 steps) with sequencing of all synth parameters.
If the multiple user selected partitioning turns out to be reasonably do-able, I’d love one option similar to the above. ie one longer seq per patch, with lots of assignable parameter tracks.
Yeah that’s even cooler, i’m guessing you could set up a track in your sequencer to send note events and that will change the patterns. How cool is that!
It’s nice also nice because you could use external buttons / trigger pads to change the sequences, if I get it correctly. And I had just decided to abandon the idea of building a Monome…
i’m guessing you could set up a track in your sequencer to send note events and that will change the patterns. How cool is that! Would this work in a non 303 mode too?
yes, it also works with other engines, just only the hold function is missing (yet)
The same mechanism will be provided by the drum engine.
Btw.: thanks to the ensemble it is possible to control all SIDs from the same MIDI channel, and to define split points in order to select sequences from different keyboard zones, or to layer them (e.g. selecting a bassline and drum sequence with a single key)
It’s nice also nice because you could use external buttons / trigger pads to change the sequences, if I get it correctly. And I had just decided to abandon the idea of building a Monome…
You can also use the modulation matrix of MBSID, it selects and displays sequences in bassline/drum mode.
However, something “Monome” like works also fine, but note that there is no feedback for LEDs, to display which sequence is currently selected.
8 sequences per patch w/ note and parameter track (16 steps)
Sorry for the noob question…I haven’t even started building my mbsid yet, but does the 303 mode allow you to have sequences that are shorter than 16 steps?..i use a lot of 3 step and 7 step 303 lines…acid polyrhythms rule!
I think you mean polymeters - There’s still no sequencer that can play polyrhythms on outboard gear… yet
Polyrhythm:
A B C A B C :
A B C D A B C D :
Polymeter:
A B C A B C A B C A B C :
A B C D A B C D A B C D :
As you can see, polyrhythms require separate clocking, which is not natively supported by MIDI, so the device has to support it itself, and AFAIK, none do I’ve been pushing this for years now, it won’t be long (Edit: I think maybe the RM1x can do it?)
Exactly, and MBSID has so many more possibilities!
I’d like to build a dedicated ‘Bassline box’ that I can use live, rather than cart about the 8xSID monster Wiba’s designed Maybe we can work on something together, further down the line.
I think you mean polymeters - There’s still no sequencer that can play polyrhythms on outboard gear… yet
Polyrhythm:
A B C A B C :
A B C D A B C D :
Polymeter:
A B C A B C A B C A B C :
A B C D A B C D A B C D :
As you can see, polyrhythms require separate clocking, which is not natively supported by MIDI, so the device has to support it itself, and AFAIK, none do I’ve been pushing this for years now, it won’t be long (Edit: I think maybe the RM1x can do it?)
MIDI has nothing to do with “clocking” (tempo). Unless I didn’t understand you, that’s perfectly doable, and easy to create in any midi editor that allows timestretching.
Ahh dangit… I had a big reply there but the browser crashed. Bast**d
It was some stuff about how polyrhythms require different tempo as well as a different meter (to the other track)in order to syncronise the measure start points, unlike polymeters which are just a different meter at the same tempo. MIDI only has one metronome (0xF8 aka clock) so the device has to support quantising the beats at different tempos to it’s master clock, the F8 (or a multiplier of it). Yes, you can do that with a timestretch tool, or better yet write it in notation so you don’t have to fumble it post-writing, and there are a number of other tricks, but it’s cumbersome, and although it is possible to obtain a similar effect to a polyrhythm, I’d call it a hack, not a supported feature. For example can you think of any seqs which support a separate snap-to grid in the piano roll editor, for each track? Individual tempos per track? Etc Etc…
All I can really remember (except a bunch of tech talk I can’t be bothered with retyping) is that I said “I can combine my skateboard with a chainsaw motor, but that doesn’t make it a car”. I think that’ll do… besides I didn’t want to hijack, just to give a theory lesson Although I could split this off into another topic if you guys want to discuss it further? Obviously I am very interested in the topic and what you guys think of it