No sound coming from the SID

I have a problem that i don’t get any sound out of my sid, i only get a slight hum (ground?)

As i am a complete electronics noob i have no idea where to look for the problem.

All the voltages have been checked and they are correct, i have used a c64 psu.

MIOS and the testtone have been uploaded succesfully.

here is a picture of the pcb (large pic)

http://www.elexorien.com/bla/pcb.jpg

The testtone application has a special feature which allows you to test the output amplifier without SID.

Power Off your MIDIbox, unplug the SID, apply power again and connect pin #8 of the socket with pin #27. Do you hear a 1 kHz pulse sound thereafter?

Best Regards, Thorsten.

i tried it, i heard a low buzzy tone.

then i disconnected the pins and tried again and then i didn’t hear the tone anymore.

Also, the hum is gone with the SID out of the socket.

hello

are you sure your 74hc595 are good ? i’m not sure it can help.

Is there any way to test them? or do i have to buy a new pair?

The 74HC595s can be tested with the mbsid_interconnection_test application. See the README for details about the test procedure.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Hi, I killed one 74hc595 by placing it backwards on the MB6582 (or it was dead before, who knows :D) nd of course I got no sid sounds from that channel, check if yours are placed correctly/try using new ones.

The 74HC595s can be tested with the mbsid_interconnection_test application. See the README for details about the test procedure.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

All give correct voltages (5.04V). So that means they work, right?

Yes - so it seems that your SID isn’t working.

From where did you get it? Are you able to test it on an old C64?

Best Regards, Thorsten.

I tested my SID in the c64 i cannibalized it from using poke commands, and it works in the c64.

Ok, last possibility: measure the voltage between pin #14 and #24 #28 when the SID is plugged in. For a 6581 it should be 12V

Best Regards, Thorsten.

i get 0.01V on my 6581

Obviously there’s a problem with the supply, eh? :wink: SIDs don’t run w/o power. What PSU are you using?

c64 psu, but i get 12v on pin 28 and 14 with or without the SID inserted, so the psu most work?  ???

That’s correct actually pin #24 is potx and I am not sure about what voltage it should/could have. 14 Vss - 28 Vdd should be 12V as you measured.

Check your soldering. Better yet - post pictures.

You are right… pin #28 was the intended one.

To summarize: you’ve checked the SID itself, the amplifier, the control signals between 74HC595 and SID, the 5V/12V supply voltage - so: almost all pins, and they are ok.

Remaining pins are #1..#4 (caps) can only be checked visually (should be easy!)

Pin #6 (the clock pin) is connected to CORE::J10:PWM. On the core, it’s a routed to Pin #17 of the PIC. Depending on the PCB you are using, a cable is required as a bridge (see also this picture - the red marked connection) - did you consider this?

/Edit: a better picture

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Yes! it works, i had the short red cable at bottom connected to the wrong pin.

It works great, i only hear the tone going really silent when i let go off a key.

Thank you.

The low sound isn’t much hearable when recording it luckily.

Gonna be a long night fiddling with my new toy :slight_smile:

Thank you very much for the help!

If you ground the input to the SID, the background noise will drop even further..