Hi Guys,
I just figured that in the BOM there is no supplier mentioned for the switch caps. I found the following and I wonder which ones are the right ones ?
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I am just wondering if both will work and which of those are recommended …
Thanks !
orange
Hi Guys,
I just figured that in the BOM there is no supplier mentioned for the switch caps. I found the following and I wonder which ones are the right ones ?
Snap In:
Plain:
I am just wondering if both will work and which of those are recommended …
Thanks !
orange
Orange,
this one is 19mm (18.3x18.3 but 19mm hole), this gives the panel lines between the caps a bit too thin. I accidentally bought 130 of these (from another supplier) and could take a picture of populated board with the buttons over the next weekend when’s my next home visit scheduled if it matters for you (still, they’re 18 cents cheaper, for 64 this makes >10 EUR difference).
Anyway, I can sell you these if you want to, my local supplier has them here for 0,2910 EUR pp (excl 19% VAT). I could also sell you 64 buttons I’ve got spare, I got them for here for 0,62 EUR pp (again, excl. VAT, Conrad sells them for 1,40 EUR) - I bought two sets of buttons and (wrong) caps hoping for 2 PCBs from ilmenator :rolleyes:
Sorry for advertising, this should probably be part of Fleamarket topic.
Cheers,
freddy
Freddy, you can offer me what you’ve got, but I have to check out the pictures beforehand. I am aiming towards perfection, so if that combination is cheaper but looking ugly, then I am out :shifty:, otherwise I am in :rolleyes:
Freddy, you can offer me what you’ve got, but I have to check out the pictures beforehand. I am aiming towards perfection, so if that combination is cheaper but looking ugly, then I am out :shifty:, otherwise I am in :rolleyes:
Sure thing, unfortunately, I won’t be able to post pics before following weekend (23-24/2). If you’re unpatient (like I was) you better get the 16mm buttons till then, these were documented already on ilmenator’s wiki :rolleyes:
Hi Freddy,
I can wait …
I got them for here for 0,62 EUR pp (again, excl. VAT, Conrad sells them for 1,40 EUR)
That is a really, really good price - I desoldered mine from old (but actually mostly unused) equipment, I think I wouldn’t have gone through the hassle had I known about this supplier earlier! The “feel” of these is superb. Thanks for providing that link, freddy!
ilmenator - no kidding, I told you about the source and the price before (PM on 7/1) though without the links :sad:
orange - while browsing PMs with ilmenator I found some poor quality pics of the 19mm caps, attaching them as a teaser before I’ll make proper pictures the following weekend. Basically, to get an idea, using 16mm caps (the smaller and more expensive at Conrad) this leaves ~4,5mm space between the buttons as can be seen on ilmenator’s Wiki page, using 19mm this leaves ~1.5mm for the panel width.
ilmenator - no kidding, I told you about the source and the price before (PM on 7/1) though without the links :sad:
Yes, but that was after I had desoldered mine already 
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Hi Ilmenator,
I wanted to order a PCB from goldphoenixpcb., but I am struggling with the fields to be entered in the order / quote form. Can you please review the fields entered ? I guess I have to enter the total size (335.15mm x 97.92mm) as given in the WIKI, right ?
Thank you !
orange
The following caps are the right ones, they measure 15,5 x 15,5 mm. I guess the 16x16mm in the WIKI are hand measured and not taken from the data sheet, isn’t it ?
Gold Phoenix will usually send you a quote after you have uploaded the Gerbers. Whatever you enter in their form is just for giving you quick online feedback, I believe.
16x16mm in the Wiki is indeed an approximation, yes. I believe that is actually the recommended opening in the frontpanel - it’s in the cap’s datasheet.
Thanks for the quick reply ! I just send my inquiry.
Hi Freddy,
I can wait …
Orange,
Here it is, the images are self-explaining, if you want to take picture from another side, angle, or caps combination, let me know, I’ll have the camera around me till Sunday, flying back to Frankfurt on Monday.
Edit: I just realized that the 19mm caps will be covering the LEDs so the LEDs would need to bended a bit (by app 1.5mm) to the top. There is still enough place to fit a 3mm LED between the rows, though.
So, sorry to bring up this old post, but I was wondering if somebody could give me further insight into the function and use
of the 4 x 16 BLM.
I understand the concept of the BLM, at least at that 16 x 16 x X level.
On the larger BLM it’s actually a 17 x 17 BLM and the extra colum and row , is how you define the “Modes” of the BLM.
So with the simpler, 16 x 4 BLM. How does one control the “Modes”? Or is it a simpler BLM and only controls… ?
I see all the instructions on how to build it but just haven’t found anything describing its use and function.
Thanks!
So in trying to answer my own question, I’ve been looking at the source code. But that leaves me with even more questions.. 
I see this here: (root)/trunk/apps/sequencers/midibox_seq_v4/hwcfg/wilba_tpd/MBSEQ_HW.V4
# set this value to 1 if each track has its own set of 16 LEDs to display unmuted steps and current sequencer position # or if you are using a button/led matrix for misc. button/LED functions BLM_ENABLED 1
So the LED’s on the matrix will show unmuted steps and current sequencer position.
So we have 4 Rows… is that for the 16 steps of the 4 Tracks for the currently selected Group?
It’s just not clear what each of the 4 Rows of LED’s are showing.
Then we have the buttons:
# set this to 1 if these buttons should only control the "step triggers" (gate, and other assigned triggers) - and no UI functions BLM_BUTTONS_NO_UI 1
So where are these assigned buttons made? Is their a menu option? When I go through the Menu pages in the User Manual, I only see BLM options for Scalar. How does one set these buttons to control/assign the “steps triggers”?
It seemed that this might have been something that was with v3 Seq? I went looking there in the archives on the website, but haven’t found much, and the pic that I saw from there, showed a 17 x 4 row , the 4 buttons in column looked like they were spaced
to help control the “function”. Is that what the 4 extra buttons are for on the other project, the TPD?
Just trying to get an accurate description of exactly what the 16 x 4 matrix controls and how one would set that up.
Thanks!
ilmenator,
I’ve converted your AI back to FPD, I’m attaching it if you want to put it to the wiki. It was seated to 3U panel but the whole 16x4 BLM is a single block and can safely be moved around or copied/paste to another panel design.
freddy
freddy’s FPD file has a 1,5mm. corner radius on the 16x16mm cutouts for the button caps.
For the Marquardt button caps this is too sharp, the radius should be 0,75mm.
Here is the altered file
[BLM_16x4.fpd](< base_url >/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=11948)
eptheca, thanks for sharing!
you’re welcome
here’s the one with the TPD on the left
[TPD+BLM_19.fpd](< base_url >/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=11977)