Let's order MB-6582 parts

OK, so I need a 16 pin cable for the LCD and 8 pin cables for connecting the base PCB to the CS PCB, preferrably the 100mil spacing cable Wilba used.

For the 16-pin LCD cable, you can buy new rainbow-coloured ribbon from SmashTV, but you can also reuse computer ribbon cables.  Just snip off the ends and tear off a ribbon as wide as you need.

Also don’t forget the ribbon cable DIL headers.

Which MIDI sockets fit into the standard panels?

The baseboard parts kit includes the MIDI sockets you need.

For the 16-pin LCD cable, you can buy new rainbow-coloured ribbon from SmashTV, but you can also reuse computer ribbon cables.  Just snip off the ends and tear off a ribbon as wide as you need.

I have lots of those ribbon cables, so I think I’ll just use them. Thanks.

Also don’t forget the ribbon cable DIL headers.

Ah OK, so I need two 16 pin DIL connectors and one socket for the LCD?

The baseboard-CS connections are typically just soldered, without connectors?

Ah OK’ date=’ so I need two 16 pin DIL connectors and one socket for the LCD?

The baseboard-CS connections are typically just soldered, without connectors?

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You only need one, of the connectors, or IDC connectors as smash calls them on his site,

these dudes:

And youll solder the otherside of the cable to the pads on the LCD itself, because theres not enough room to use a connector.

If you look at the pic of the mb-6582 opened, youll see that all 16 of these solders pads are in a straight line, (not 2 lines)

I think this is the same for most 20x4 LCD’s, the one used in that mb-6582 is a Crystal Fontz LCD.

As for connecting the CS to the Base PCB, connectors are generally not used,

except in fussylizards case.

If youre not going to be removing both pcbs from each other then dont bother going to the trouble of using connectors.

its upto you.

Btw, did anyone use a helping hands or board vice to hold the PCBs in place while working on the mb-6582?

I dont know if you can get a board vice that size easily, id imagine it would be pretty expensive unless you DIY.

Thanks for clarification about the connectors Smithy!

I just noticed that IC sockets are included in the order list. Aren’t they included in the parts kit from SmashTV?

Thanks for clarification about the connectors Smithy!

I just noticed that IC sockets are included in the order list. Aren’t they included in the parts kit from SmashTV?

Hehe, this definitely isnt an obvious one thats for sure!

Wilba came up with the idea of using extra IC sockets for the Sids, that would mount on top of the ones that are soldered on the board.

Standard IC sockets have flimsy legs, just like the legs on an IC are flimsy.

So what he did is use premium IC sockets, which have much stronger legs/pins,

in between the existing sockets, and the Sids,

to prevent you breaking the pins of the Sid chip, everytime you insert or remove one.

Ahh I see :slight_smile:

Definately a good idea.

So in the kit from Smash TV, there are only enough ICs to solder to the board, and plug the SIDs into right?  We do need to buy the extras to safely swap out SIDs?

So in the kit from Smash TV, there are only enough ICs to solder to the board, and plug the SIDs into right?  We do need to buy the extras to safely swap out SIDs?

Yup.

and Yup.

Well i guess theyre not a necessity if youre careful, but you cant be careful all the time!  ;)

Its how reproduction is still possible in this age of contraceptives!

Hehe, this definitely isnt an obvious one thats for sure!

Wilba came up with the idea of using extra IC sockets for the Sids, that would mount on top of the ones that are soldered on the board.

Standard IC sockets have flimsy legs, just like the legs on an IC are flimsy.

So what he did is use premium IC sockets, which have much stronger legs/pins,

in between the existing sockets, and the Sids,

to prevent you breaking the pins of the Sid chip, everytime you insert or remove one.

I’m sort of being misquoted here - I used extra IC sockets in my prototype only temporarily, they weren’t “premium”, just normal dual wipe kind, and I only used them while I was developing the prototype, so I could easily remove and insert them again. I used them on the PICs too, again just for convenience. It’s not a long term setup I recommend - the extra sockets do not have as long or as thick a pin as an IC and so the grip is poor and it’s very easy to have bad contacts this way. Use only in the short term if you’re moving ICs around a lot, something which most builders won’t need to do unless there’s a problem getting one of the Core/SID modules working (i.e. troubleshooting by swapping ICs).

Ah, so what exactly was the order?  Which type of socket was soldered to the board, and which type of socket held the SID?

Thanks Wilba, I think I won’t need the extra sockets then.

Ah, so what exactly was the order?  Which type of socket was soldered to the board, and which type of socket held the SID?

Same type for both - standard dual wipe IC socket, same as in SmashTV’s kits.

Oh weird…I guess I just got my machine-pin socket assumption from nowhere!

done, I will hold one set of each for you…

I will pm you the details, let me know if your interested when you get back.

cheers

Got all of them today.  Thanks a lot!

Sorry guys, I’ve been super busy and haven’t researched any parts.  I’m sure I’ll get a burst of motivation when I start assembling my PCBs from SmashTV.

Same type for both - standard dual wipe IC socket, same as in SmashTV’s kits.

Same here, not sure where i got that assumption either!

Hi - I am interested about getting control surface parts! I have smash kit and both boards, but it doesn’t include the stuff I need for control surface, right? right! Ok - So if someone is gathering bulkorder set for control surface board parts, I am more than into it. How that will happen, I don’t know. 110% in? ha :smiley:

Nestle

Where do you live again ping?

I am living in California in the U.S,

bla bla, something about not minding to send orders internationally as he has done before

Im just about to start my mb-6582 baseboard, and when I’m done i’ll be ready to do the bulk order for the C.S. (or something)

Thats cool,in the meantime, the rest of us can go looking for bargains on sites,

for this bulk order.

Hey, where’d my post go? Anyway, you pretty much got it, Smithy!

I’m still waiting for my kits from SmashTV.