DOUT Matrix question

Marxon · November 29, 2013, 4:16pm

Hi Midiboxers!

Thorsten’s Midibox NG can be a little beast in terms of complexity for me

It would be great if someone can help me.

I like to equip my Midibox NG with 16 8-segment led bars.

Each bar should be controlled with a separate received CC event like this way:

CC value = 0 -> all bar segments off

CC value = 64 -> bar segment 1,2,3,4 on

CC value = 127 -> all bar segments on

Due to the conditions of my box, I decided to divide them into two 4x16 matrices (one column = 2x8-led bars)

Every matrix is driven by 3 DOUT-SRs.

Matrix 1

SR1 D7 - D0 are connected to the anodes of LED Bar 1, 3, 5, 7 (column 1-8)

SR2 D7 is connected to all cathodes of bar 1, 2 (row 1)

SR2 D6 is connected to all cathodes of bar 3, 4 (row 2)

SR2 D5 is connected to all cathodes of bar 5, 6 (row 3)

SR2 D4 is connected to all cathodes of bar 7, 8 (row 4)

SR3 D7 - D0 are connected to the anodes of LED Bar 2, 4, 6, 8 (column 9-16)

…

But now i am confused how to control the led bars independently via CCs because they are parts of led matrix columns.

Led matrix patterns?

Each led separately with emu_led_offset?

Range mapping?

Thanks for any suggestions!

Best regards

Marxon

T.K · November 29, 2013, 11:23pm

This example shows how to control several LED digit clusters via CC:

-> http://svnmios.midibox.org/filedetails.php?repname=svn.mios32&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fapps%2Fcontrollers%2Fmidibox_ng_v1%2Fcfg%2Ftests%2Fleddig1.ngc

Does this help?

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Marxon · November 30, 2013, 2:22am

There is nothing more to say!

I mistakenly missed out the LED Digit topic and thought to have no usecase for it.

Thank you Thorsten.

Marxon

Marxon · November 30, 2013, 8:25pm

There is nothing more to say!

I mistakenly missed out the LED Digit topic and thought to have no usecase for it.

Thank you Thorsten.

Marxon

This was probably a little bit hasty…

The LED Digit example does not clarify the issue because

it is a pair of 8x8 matrices.

I have made a sketch to explain what my problem is.

How can i control led bar 1 with a CC and

led bar 2 with another one although they are in the same column?

I tried to assign two diffewrent patterns but as expected they interrupt each other.

DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=3 sr_dout_sel1=4 sr_dout_r2=5  
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=6 sr_dout_sel1=7 sr_dout_r2=8  

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=1 led_matrix_pattern=1 fwd_to_lcd=1 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 1 lcd_pos=1:1:2 label="1:%3d%B"
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=2 led_matrix_pattern=2 fwd_to_lcd=1 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 2 lcd_pos=1:1:2 label="1:%3d%B"

LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 0 pattern=0000000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 1 pattern=1000000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 2 pattern=1000000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 3 pattern=1100000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 4 pattern=1110000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 5 pattern=1110000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 6 pattern=1111000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 7 pattern=1111000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 8 pattern=1111100000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos= 9 pattern=1111100000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos=10 pattern=1111110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos=11 pattern=1111110000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos=12 pattern=1111111000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos=13 pattern=1111111000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos=14 pattern=1111111100000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 1 pos=15 pattern=1111111100000000

LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 0 pattern=0000000000000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 1 pattern=0000000010000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 2 pattern=0000000010000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 3 pattern=0000000011000000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 4 pattern=0000000011100000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 5 pattern=0000000011100000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 6 pattern=0000000011110000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 7 pattern=0000000011110000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 8 pattern=0000000011111000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos= 9 pattern=0000000011111000
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos=10 pattern=0000000011111100
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos=11 pattern=0000000011111100
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos=12 pattern=0000000011111110
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos=13 pattern=0000000011111110
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos=14 pattern=0000000011111111
LED_MATRIX_PATTERN n= 2 pos=15 pattern=0000000011111111

T.K · November 30, 2013, 8:53pm

Ah! Sorry, I picked up the wrong example.

This is a better one: http://svnmios.midibox.org/filedetails.php?repname=svn.mios32&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fapps%2Fcontrollers%2Fmidibox_ng_v1%2Fcfg%2Ftests%2Ftpd.ngc

(it tests the TPD, which consists of two 8x8 duo-LED matrices, driven by DOUT_MATRIX n=2 and n=3)

As you can see, each DOUT_MATRIX has 16 EVENT_LED_MATRIX entries, regardless of the number of rows.

In order to ensure individual access, I would propose to define 4 DOUT_MATRIX items:

/edit: corrected DOUT_MATRIX assignments.

DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=4 sr_dout_r1=3  
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=4 sr_dout_r1=5
DOUT_MATRIX n=3 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=7 sr_dout_r1=6  
DOUT_MATRIX n=4 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=7 sr_dout_r1=8

you should be able to control the LED bars with:

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 1 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 16 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 2 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 17 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 3 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 18 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 4 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 19 led_matrix_pattern=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=17 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 20 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=18 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 21 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=19 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 22 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=20 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 23 led_matrix_pattern=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=33 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 24 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=34 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 25 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=35 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 26 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=36 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 27 led_matrix_pattern=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=49 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 28 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=50 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 29 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=51 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 30 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=52 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 31 led_matrix_pattern=1

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Marxon · December 1, 2013, 2:00pm

Hi Thorsten,

unfortunately your Code

DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=3 sr_dout_r2=5  
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=4 sr_dout_r2=5
DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=6 sr_dout_r2=8  
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=7 sr_dout_r2=8  

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 1 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 16 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 2 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 17 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 3 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 18 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id= 4 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 19 led_matrix_pattern=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=17 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 20 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=18 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 21 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=19 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 22 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=20 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 23 led_matrix_pattern=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=33 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 24 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=34 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 25 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=35 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 26 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=36 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 27 led_matrix_pattern=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=49 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 28 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=50 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 29 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=51 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 30 led_matrix_pattern=1
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=52 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 31 led_matrix_pattern=1

does not work.

Would you please explain it to me?

Why are the sr_dout_sel missing or are they just declared as sr_dout_r2?

As you can see, each DOUT_MATRIX has 16 EVENT_LED_MATRIX entries, regardless of the number of rows.

Do you mean EVENT_LED_MATRIX entry has a 16 step pattern?

Shouldn’t be the code

DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=3 sr_dout_r2=5
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=4 sr_dout_r2=5
DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=6 sr_dout_r2=8
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=7 sr_dout_r2=8

like this (different matrix numbering)

DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=3 sr_dout_r2=5
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=4 sr_dout_r2=5  
DOUT_MATRIX n=3 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=6 sr_dout_r2=8  
DOUT_MATRIX n=4 rows=4 sr_dout_r1=7 sr_dout_r2=8

Best regards

Marxon

T.K · December 1, 2013, 2:38pm

Sorry, my fault.

It should be:

DOUT_MATRIX n=1 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=4 sr_dout_r1=3  
DOUT_MATRIX n=2 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=4 sr_dout_r1=5
DOUT_MATRIX n=3 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=7 sr_dout_r1=6  
DOUT_MATRIX n=4 rows=4 sr_dout_sel1=7 sr_dout_r1=8

Does this make more sense?

Do you mean EVENT_LED_MATRIX entry has a 16 step pattern?

no, I mean that

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=1..16 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=17..32 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=2

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=33..48 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=3

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=49..64 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=4

each id controls a column (LED bar)

You’ve only 4 LED bars per DOUT_MATRIX, accordingly only id=1..4, id=17..20, id=33=36, id=49..52 are relevant, the others can be ignored.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Marxon · December 1, 2013, 3:02pm

no, I mean that

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=1..16 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=1

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=17..32 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=2

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=33..48 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=3

EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=49..64 are assigned to DOUT_MATRIX id=4

each id controls a column (LED bar)

You’ve only 4 LED bars per DOUT_MATRIX, accordingly only id=1..4, id=17..20, id=33=36, id=49..52 are relevant, the others can be ignored.

Best Regards, Thorsten.

Ah now i got it:

this why you count in your tpd.ngc example:

...
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=22 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 21 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=23 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 22 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=24 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 23 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15

# CC 24..31
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=33 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 24 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=34 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 25 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=35 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 26 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
.....

and not

...
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=22 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 21 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=23 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 22 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=24 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 23 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15

# CC 24..31
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=25 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 24 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=27 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 25 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
EVENT_LED_MATRIX id=28 type=CC chn= 1 cc= 26 led_matrix_pattern=1 rgb=15:15:15
.....

Thank you again!

Now it really works like wanted

Have a nice day!