Can somebody confirm there is DJ mixer crossfader sutible for mbox - 10K linear. I would pay more for quality crossfader.
you just need a normal 10k fader, and then assign it to the x-fader in the application (i.e. ableton).
You might want a different knob on the top because of the way it’s used and mounted will be different to the channel faders.
The size come down to preference and style - turntablists and scratchers like short x-faders, 3 minute mixers will perfer a longer one
you just need a normal 10k fader, and then assign it to the x-fader in the application (i.e. ableton).
You might want a different knob on the top because of the way it’s used and mounted will be different to the channel faders.
The size come down to preference and style - turntablists and scratchers like short x-faders, 3 minute mixers will perfer a longer one
David, you completly missed my point. I already said that about 10k fader…
Let me try again… Which Brands (model) of DJ mixers have replacible crossfaders valued 10K linear? Non of the crossfaders have that kind of details since mixer owner dont need it. You are buying crossfader acording to model you have.
And all crossfaders I saw comes with included knobs and some with included montage polate so I dont need to worry about it. I am interested just which one is 10k lin.
but the problem with using an x-fader on an Midibox is that the x-fader is designed to take 2 stereo inputs and mix them - I don’t think this will work with a midi box (please correct me if I’m wrong).
You could still make one work, you just use one of the sets of contacts.
I don’t think you’re going to find a linear DJ crossfader though, because being for audio, it’s going to need a log curve.
You could call the manufacturers to ask which models use a 10k xfader, there’s not that many of them 
Yeah they are designd for audio, but one said thay are not directly feeded with the signal reather driving the circuit controling the valume, so they still could be linear. It make sense, cose i saw circuit somewhere using that kind of “cracking avoidence”
I could call them but colls would cost me more than if I buy crossfaders and read the markings from it. I`ll try to mail tham.
what application are you going to drive with the x-fader? is it ableton or traktor?
It doesn`t matter. I would like to make dedicated controllers for both apps.
You don’t need 10k faders. The only thing which is important ist that they are no log faders.
I used 25k faders in my Traktor Midibox and they work just as well.
Regards
Michael
It must be reason why 10K. How big is the tollerance 10K-???
It doesn`t matter. I would like to make dedicated controllers for both apps.
Right - so I didn’t miss your point the 1st time.
If you want a cross fader to use with say ableton - it’s really really simple, get a standard 10k Fader and bam! you are done.
If you want a center denent they get a 10k fader with done, choose knob you like and you are away- and it’ll be massively cheaper than buying a fader as a spare part.
Alps make great faders or if you are feeling rich go for a P&G
but one said thay are not directly feeded with the signal reather driving the circuit controling the valume, so they still could be linear. It make sense, cose i saw circuit somewhere using that kind of “cracking avoidence”
SOME mixers use VCAs for the x-fader, but not all, generally more expensive/old skool mixers.
Personally I don’t think that crossfaders are log. Only channel faders can be.
If you imagine a mixer as a set of identically built units, wether there a 2, 3 or even more of them (a set is a line fader and a EQ, Cue buttons …) a log Crossfader woudn’t make sense.
As sasa said the Crossfader only drives a control circuit which amplifies or weakens each channel and therefore it has to be lin.
Regards
m.
have you seen the graphs for x-faders???
have you ever used a Rane, or an Allen and Heath? How about a soundcraft, you’ll find they have different slopes in the middle!
and now for the final killer question: hands up who’s actually tested using a fader on Ableton assigned to the x-fade???
and now for the final killer question: hands up who’s actually tested using a fader on Ableton assigned to the x-fade???
As I remember I tried it. Dont remember was something different about it. ?
so you tried a normal 10k fader, assigned it to Ableton’s x-fade and it worked:
why on earth are you looking to use an x-fade from a mixer???
if it’s that you’ve got too much cash around at the moment and you’re looking to get rid of some, send it my way 
Ableton Live or any other software have nothing to do with pot value. “?”
Moving the fader controller is sending same MIDI msg. no metter which softver you are using.
I wanted to use mixer crossfader because of the nice smooth movement feeling and their durability. Isnt that enough reason to use them? They are made much better than regular sliders as far as I know. Look at those scratch xfaders. You done so meny movements in a hour of practising that regular DJ done in a year. I dont planing to use it for “cutting” but doesn`t metter. There is big difference betveen faders and mixer xfader.
PS. I am pretty short on cash but same time I am willing to spend more for make good quality machine even I finish it in a year. All potentiometers I can find in my country are plastic Radiohm. Quality ones are DJ mixer replacements. I hope you understand now.
aaarrrgggghhhhh - Sasa, are you deliberately misundertstanding me?
read this:
http://www.rane.com/note146.html
then think about this: a normal 10k fader works fine in abeton to control the x-fader - (i actually tested this myself as I had the same question as you, but decided to actually test it out before asking questions), so if the x-fader has a different respose curve than a standard linear fader, what do you think the result is going to be?
an no - x-faders are NOT better quality than normal faders, why do you think they make them user replaceable? because they die regularly through use!!
read the link I sent, and if you are still having problems getting your head around it, then go out and buy an x-fader and see what happens!!
aaarrrgggghhhhh - Sasa, are you deliberately misundertstanding me?
No I am not!
a normal 10k fader works fine in abeton to control the x-fader
What is normal fader? I guess you mean linear. Evry linear pot vorks fine in evry application.
so if the x-fader has a different respose curve than a standard linear fader, what do you think the result is going to be?
If has diferent slope that means it is NOT linear. I asked which of replacible DJ mixer Xfader is 10K linear. I am sure my question was at right place.
x-faders are NOT better quality than normal faders, why do you think they make them user replaceable? because they die regularly through use!!
I saw some quarantie several hundreds fo thousands of operations!!! It must mean something!
Again, question is which one is 10K or so but LINEAR
okay - whatever, I’ve tried as best I can, go ahead spend lots of time and effort before you come to the conclusion that you should have used a standard 10k fader..