Hi
I have trouble to figure out how to emulate the MotorMix Controller.
I captured the Values once with MidiOX and had a version working on before MB_MG came up. But now im not able to trace that back and make it work with MB_NG.
The main problem is that MotorMix seams to send a CC:15 value 0 event by pressing a (toggle-) button and by releasing it it sends a CC:47 value 67 (that wold be what happens when solo 1 is pressed.)
How can i send two different CC with one Press/depress?
greets
novski
Hi,
I´m not able to test it for myself atm, but maybe this could do it. I´m using similar methods for my own box.
You need a *.NGR script to do that:
in the *.NGC:
EVENT_BUTTON id=1 type=meta meta=RunSection:1 range=0:1
and in the *.NGR:
if ^section == 1
if BUTTON:1 == 1
send CC USB1 1 15 0
endif
if BUTTON:1 == 0
send CC USB1 1 47 67
endif
endif
Maybe this will do the trick.
my regards
EDIT: Just tested it and it works! The button sends CC15 v0 when pressing and CC47 v67 when depressing.
Hi John E. Finster
Thanks for the hint to the .NGR File. This works really!
I started to make me a File with 24 Buttons and tried some topology that doesn’t seam to work, can you say me how you wold make a second, third button work?
There is a other thing i can’t understand. If i touch a Fadercap i generate a similar message. But it seams to have a Ping going with it as well witch is described in this document. The thing i can’t follow is the number 68-75 (90 68 7f)
Here is a copy of the messages transmitted by touching 2 Fadercaps in follow:
[30356.400] b0 0f 00 Chn# 1 CC# 15 = 0
[30356.401] b0 2f 40 Chn# 1 CC# 47 = 64
[30356.401] 90 68 7f Chn# 1 Note On G#6 Vel:127
[30356.512] b0 0f 00 Chn# 1 CC# 15 = 0
[30356.512] b0 2f 00 Chn# 1 CC# 47 = 0
[30356.512] 90 68 00 Chn# 1 Note Off G#6 (optimized)
[30427.985] b0 0f 01 Chn# 1 CC# 15 = 1
[30427.986] b0 2f 40 Chn# 1 CC# 47 = 64
[30427.986] 90 69 7f Chn# 1 Note On A-6 Vel:127
[30428.065] b0 0f 01 Chn# 1 CC# 15 = 1
[30428.066] b0 2f 00 Chn# 1 CC# 47 = 0
[30428.066] 90 69 00 Chn# 1 Note Off A-6 (optimized)
how can i find out what a number i have to transmit with the Select or Mute Buttons…
Thanks for any help.. -And the help you already done!
Novski
With what DAW are you trying to use the motormix emulation?
I remember that cubase sends different midi events to the motormix than described in the motormix manual.
Im using it with SAC a software audio mixer for realtime live applications.
A bit a special usage…
Im not working on requests yet. Im trying to send only…
Best regards
Novski
Ok, I found my old notes from my “Motormix Studies” with cubase I did a few years ago and I think I can dare to take a shot at this:
For every button there has to be sent 2 CCs, the first one selects the channel and the second one sets the function (like solo, mute,…).
Now, if I remember correctly, the 2 CCs have to be sent twice (so 4 events in total) with different values to set a function.
CC VALUE
Fader Touch:
15 0(0-7)
47 64
15 0(0-7)
47 00
Select:
15 0(0-7)
47 65
15 0(0-7)
47 01
Mute:
15 0(0-7)
47 66
15 0(0-7)
47 02
Solo:
15 0(0-7)
47 67
15 0(0-7)
47 03
Multi:
15 0(0-7)
47 68
15 0(0-7)
47 04
Record:
15 0(0-7)
47 69
15 0(0-7)
47 05
Regarding the PING, I think you can ignore it for now. The Mackie Protocol too has some kind of PING thingie integrated but I didn´t have any trouble ignoring it (at least with Reaper and Ableton).
EDIT: Sorry, I got some messed up notes lying here 
. I changed the events again…
Unfortunatly I´m not able to test this atm. I´m far away from home (and from my midiboxes :bye: ) for a few days. Next week I will be able to test this.
I suggest you try and put something like this in the *.NGR:
if ^section == 1
if BUTTON:1 == 1
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 67
endif
if BUTTON:1 == 0
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 3
endif
endif
This is for the Solo on Track 1. For the other tracks the cc15 value has to be changed from 0-7.
Hi
I just tested your suggestions. They work!
I tryed to make several buttons work. But i found out that i have to make a section for each button, witch i think is not the right way to go.
How wold you configure 24 Buttons in *.NGR?
Thanks
novski
Edit: don’t need full table, just maybe a example of 3 buttons…
Hi,
you can create as many sections in the *.NGR as you like. Here are some examples for the solo/mute/rec buttons of track 1
SOLO
if ^section == 1
if BUTTON:1 == 1
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 67
endif
if BUTTON:1 == 0
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 3
endif
endif
MUTE
if ^section == 2
if BUTTON:2 == 1
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 66
endif
if BUTTON:2 == 0
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 2
endif
endif
REC
if ^section == 3
if BUTTON:3 == 1
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 69
endif
if BUTTON:3 == 0
send CC USB1 1 15 0
send CC USB1 1 47 5
endif
endif
The according BUTTON events in the *.NGC file would be:
SOLO
EVENT_BUTTON id=1 type=meta meta=RunSection:1 range=0:1
MUTE
EVENT_BUTTON id=2 type=meta meta=RunSection:2 range=0:1
REC
EVENT_BUTTON id=3 type=meta meta=RunSection:3 range=0:1
Of course you have to keep track of all the button ids and the according section numbers.
my regards
Hey, it just hit me . Since what you want to acchieve isn´t technically the same you asked for in the initial topic (sending different CCs by pressing/depressing a button) you could try something more simple.
Now you want to send 2 CCs by pressing a button and the same 2 CCs by depressing, just with a different value. So I think something like this could work:
In the *.NGC file assign 2 events to one button with a specific range and button mode:
SOLO Track 1
EVENT_BUTTON id=1 hw_id=1 type=cc chn=1 cc=15 range=0:0 button_mode=OnOff
EVENT_BUTTON id=2 hw_id=1 type=cc chn=1 cc=47 range=3:67 button_mode=OnOff
SOLO Track 2
EVENT_BUTTON id=3 hw_id=2 type=cc chn=1 cc=15 range=1:1 button_mode=OnOff
EVENT_BUTTON id=4 hw_id=2 type=cc chn=1 cc=47 range=3:67 button_mode=OnOff
SOLO Track 3
EVENT_BUTTON id=5 hw_id=3 type=cc chn=1 cc=15 range=2:2 button_mode=OnOff
EVENT_BUTTON id=6 hw_id=3 type=cc chn=1 cc=47 range=3:67 button_mode=OnOff
MUTE Track 1
EVENT_BUTTON id=7 hw_id=4 type=cc chn=1 cc=15 range=0:0 button_mode=OnOff
EVENT_BUTTON id=8 hw_id=4 type=cc chn=1 cc=47 range=2:66 button_mode=OnOff
MUTE Track 2
EVENT_BUTTON id=9 hw_id=5 type=cc chn=1 cc=15 range=1:1 button_mode=OnOff
EVENT_BUTTON id=10 hw_id=5 type=cc chn=1 cc=47 range=2:66 button_mode=OnOff
MUTE Track 3
EVENT_BUTTON id=11 hw_id=6 type=cc chn=1 cc=15 range=2:2 button_mode=OnOff
EVENT_BUTTON id=12 hw_id=6 type=cc chn=1 cc=47 range=2:66 button_mode=OnOff
With that button mode and range the button (solo track 1) sends CC15 0 + CC47 67 when pressed and CC15 0 + CC47 3 when depressed.
If this works you wouldn´t need a *.NGR script and you could assign all the button within the *.NGC file.
I can´t guarantee for that though. Like I said, I won´t be home till next week to test this for myself.
my regards
phenomenal! so i can save the access time by using RAM instead of SD storage… 
Great.
Thanks a lot!
