Cheap SBlive ADC for 4 inputs!

Hi all!

I’m sure there are some other people here with a cheap sblive on their machines!..

After using the KX drivers (http://www.kxproject.com/), I realized this card is more than it seems to be!..

Except the fact that I can get latencies about 5.33 ms, the card has 2 unused stereo inputs!

So, I found a schematic of a simple ADC that enables u to use those four mono inputs!

For anyone interested,

http://alive.singnet.com.sg/musician/aps-rewiring/

Hope that someone else finds this interesting except me!

Bye!

Uclaros.

ouaaww!!! very interesting! the only drawback is that I work under linux… huummm writing a driver can be difficult… But it’s a nice info! I’ll bookmark this! :wink:

THANKS! ;D

If u search the KX driver site and the APS driver site , you’ll find drivers for linux. (I 'm sure I saw them somewhere but don’t remember their name…)

I’ll try to design a board for the circuit.. If i’ve gor something, I’ll post it here!

PS. With this, you’ll have 4 individual inputs (mono) , and not like the mic in/cd/aux/line in , that are in fact the same input! I believe that they can record simultaneously!

huummm I think if they use 4 different ADC, they can be record at the same time… but the driver have to handle this! If you want some help with the board… tell me!

But I look at it again and it’s a great mod!  ;)

The circuit uses 2 adc from crystal, cs5331 but those are stereo! The drivers handle those inputs not as 2 stereo but as 4 mono ASIO inputs. In Cubase, u can select any of them as VST inputs!!

As for the board, I’m not experienced, I’ve made a couple of boards using Eagle software..Are u more experienced in designing PCB?

yes 4 mono ;D I going too look for linux driver (alsa if possible). And I will looking for a sblive (my sister does have one in her computer… ;D)

I’m not very experiment with PCB designing, but the schematic is not very complicated, so I think it’s easy to make a board. If you want I can check yours, but I don’t think I can make it better than you :wink:

As I see this mod… this make think building a complete ADC/ADAT would not be very difficult…???

Wow!! this looks like a very cool, and educational site! I spent ages looking on the net for hacks like this, and never found them till now! Thanks uclaros!

BTW I once tried hooking up 2 sblives and one sb vibra 128, using cubase sx, to get 6 analogue I/O, it found all the inputs, but would only record on one stereo pair at a time… (But all outputs worked at the same time, which was interesting!!.. a cheap way to do outboard processing on your favorite outboard gear ;D)

I currently use 2 sblives purely for the midi interfaces!

Does anyone know of a hack to get a sblive working on a mac? There is a mac version out there, but apparently The PC version (cheaper) won’t work on a mac. (I tried it anyway, without success!) And the driver download for the mac version says not to try to use the mac drivers with a pc sblive.

will be checking out this site properly soon!  ;D

oh yeah… look on diyaudio.com, to see if anyone has already designed a diy adat interface… (would be very cool !) another option… see if you can get an old adat tape machine, with a busted mechanism, or stuffed heads… I believe it is possible to use such a device to interface adat to analogue devices.

good luck, from Steve

the RME DIGI32 was a DIY project in the early days… ;D

I ordered 3xcs5331 from crystal as free samples but I’m not sure they’re going to ship them to me (no reply from them yet..)

I’m going to start designing-building the circuit next month since I’m leaving for vacation and an exercise for the university on a nice island called Tilos. I’ll be back in about a month…  ;D

As for the SBlive it’s very cheap now since the market is filled with audigy and audigy 2!

Have a nice summer and visit a greek island!!!  ;D

Uclaros

yes, SB live is cheap… mayebe is there a way to use the same clock for 2 sblive… this we can have 8 channels ;D

I think I’m going to order sample too :wink: I think you can use other I2S ADC with no problem!

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And if I can order sample of Alesis AL1401 and AL1402 adat chip’s, we can add an ADAT input (and output… ;D)

Hey Guys…

Sound’s interesting…! :wink:

I had a similar idea a while bak, but minus the sblive ;). Just like a 8 (or 16 ;p) chan AD box with 1/2x ADAT SMUX outputs..

Got stuck on the clock sh*t tho, any ideas?

Peace…

Dan

Here’s the solution :

A SB Live with EMU10k1 : KX are able to handle 16 independant input!!! So, I think 8 can be great… With just one card! I’m going to buy one in the next day, I order a couple of CS5331, and will try that! It seems to be easy to made…! :wink:

Wish me luck!!! :slight_smile:

will the frequency be stuck at 48khz tho still, as I thought it was with these cards? Could we go from the cirrus a/d straight into an alesis optogen for adat then ye - using the clock source from the 10k1?

Nice if so :slight_smile:

Keep us posted Pilo!!

Are you reading my mind? :wink:

for the frequency… I don’t know! Maybe higher??

FOr the adat ;D Well… I think it’s possible, as the AL1402 ahve an ADAT input and I2S output, it will be possible to plug directly an ADAT on the EMU-10k1, this is the aim of “my project”… And then an AL1401 which takes as input the CS ADC (I2S) and output ADAT! And we have a complete ADAT (cheap!) sound card…

I wish Cirrus send me the sample, and I wish htrp://www.alesis-semi.com to be online soon too se if I can order AL140X!!!

I’m so Exited I can’t wait!!! ;D

Thats 23 similles on this thread now!

I have 2 x AL1101 and 2 x 1401 ready already :slight_smile:

Bring forth the cirruss’…!!!

:o Lucky you!!! you get them from alesis???

I want my sampleee!!! Nowww  :-[

i cant’t wait!!! I can’t wait!!! :cry:

Thats 23 similles on this thread now!

I have 2 x AL1101 and 2 x 1401 ready already :slight_smile:

Bring forth the cirruss’…!!!

Wow I’m spinning out, I didn’t know alesis made a chip available to process ADAT… I was going to buy an analog to ADAT convertor shortly, but if there’s a DIY solution, I’d love to hear more…

Cheers guys

PS Are we too far off topic here?

Hey Stryd…

FYI, datasheets for the AL1101(ADC) and AL1401(ADAT encoder) chips…:

http://notapplicable.co.uk/mbhp/al1101.pdf

http://notapplicable.co.uk/mbhp/al1401.pdf

The Cirrus site has info’s too…

I originally just thought of an ext 8/16 chan a/d box with smux capability - but know i’m wondering if we could use multiple hacked live’s in say an ol pc runnin a linux hd recording program, like http://ardour.sourceforge.net/ or summin…

who knows…???

It’s all to much to keep up wiv!! :wink:

will you guys ever have time to make any music?? :wink: