i’m in for 1. if is possible i like to know how much the shipping, i’m in italy.
thank you.
G.
What’s up with the backpanel?
And I think in quantities of 20+ silkscreen panels would be cheaper than engraved ones and also look much better.
So I guess the ‘matching case’ part is obsolete?
I could get them screened way cheaper if that is what everyone wants. I have the place that I use for my x0xb0xes and they are both inexpensive and very good quality wise. It would come out to around $13 ea to get them screened (2 colors) and that would drop the price of the panel to $138 (10-19 pcs). We could also add whatever graphics wise (lines etc)
And yes, the “matching case” portion of that bulk order is not active. Doug has more than enough on his plate right now and TK’s is pretty much ready to go.
As far as the back panel goes, everyone’s will likely be different but if we can get a consensus and standardize on one design, we could get those as well.
if we can get a consensus and standardize on one design, we could get those as well.
as far as i can read the port names etc, that’s ok with me :flowers:
Any one have any silk screen graphic ideas? I’d love to see some. The only small suggestion I would make is to have the track buttons(not groups) labeled as
track 1/2/3/4
track 5/6/7/8
track 9/10/11/12
track 13/14/15/16
I have mine labeled as just track 1, track 2, track 3 and track 4 and I sometimes forget how to count and select tracks accordingly 
As far as the back panel, is there a lot of interest? I’ll probably just drill holes for what ever I need (Yes USB too :))
and dremel a line out for the sd card.
If anything I don’t think we would need TK’s aout port correct? But I would think that some might want aout holes, maybe ethernet (not me). I guess if the price is right and we can decide on something without going to fancy.
I still wish we could have the V4 cases shipped directly from factory to engraver company and have them do the panels that come with the cases themselves instead of paying for unused metal and shipping (i’m a cheap ass). Is there a reason we are not doing this? No biggie, just thought maybe a few of us are thinking this. Don’t mean to come off as an ass :pirate:
I still wish we could have the V4 cases shipped directly from factory to engraver company and have them do the panels that come with the cases themselves instead of paying for unused metal and shipping (i’m a cheap ass). Is there a reason we are not doing this? No biggie, just thought maybe a few of us are thinking this. Don’t mean to come off as an ass :pirate:
Who said that the cases come with a FP? If that is the case, we can just ship those to FPE and save another bundle
Who said that the cases come with a FP?
They don’t.
Dont get me wrong, I appreciate the offer but I can get these done at FPE at $160 a pop with the threaded blinds, not have to pay any sales tax, and have them shipped for ~$10 so it would have to be a sweet deal to get them done overseas..
Sorry for the slow reply,
For a buyer in the states, i cant fault your conclusion, but my concern is that a number of people on your list are actually from the EU?
Google has just told me that 160 U.S. dollars = 100.068797 British pounds, so, sure, your price is pretty much what i was offering, but, for a buyer in the EU, that’s nowhere close to what they will actually end up paying : (
Ill make my example as a buyer from the UK, as these are the figures i know. Ill disregard all postage amounts, and convert all to USD at the median rate.
Sellers (ie your) paypal charge which i assume youll want paid - 4.4% (USD 7.04)
Buyers paypal currency conversion charge - 2% (USD 3.34)
Shipping - disrergarded
Duty - aprox 3.5% (USD 5.6)
Parcelforce handling - GBP 13.50 (USD 21.53)
VAT @ 17.5% on whole lot - (160 + 5.6 + 21.53) x 0.175 = USD 32.74
So, total charges, excluding shipping - 7.04 + 3.34 + 5.6 + 21.53 + 32.74 = 70.25 USD
Total spend, exclusding shipping - USD 160 + USD 70.25 = USD 230.25!!!
If i convert this to Euro at Google’s rate, it gives me - 230.25 U.S. dollars = 168.557833 Euros
Ive just downloaded Schaeffers new pricing for Europe, and priced a 1-off panel from them, and its given me a figure of Euro 164.73 including the 19% German sales tax!
What this meens is that, for anyone in the UK, and, i assume the rest of the EU, it would actually be cheaper for them to buy a 1-off from Schaeffer in Germany, than one of your 10-off from the states.
Of course, i only know the tarrifs for the UK, so other countries across europe may have slightly different processing charges, etc. but i doubt there’s a whole load of difference across the EU? Id also assume shipping from Germany to anywhere in the EU to be cheaper than from the States to EU countries?
As youve pointed out, i can barely compete with your US 10-off prices, but, it seems a group buy organised from the US can not compete in Europe with even Schaeffer Germany’s 1-off prices.
In light of all of the above, would you be offended if i ran an EU only offer on the panels?
Anyone who was still convinced that threadded blinds in a 3mm panel were a structually sound way to assemble the unit could go with Shaeffer Germany’s Euro 164.73 price, but then, anyone who wanted to save some money and / or didnt entirely think that possibly less than 2mm of thread in soft alluminium was sensible could have another option also.
I dont want you to think im ‘stealing’ your buyers, but, from the above, it does seem that any EU buyer on your list is doing nothing more than subsidising your reduced rate from their own pocket : (
In light of all of the above, would you be offended if i ran an EU only offer on the panels?
He will absolutely not be. The fpe order makes sense for all USians, and they should team up and get a good price.
What you do is very helpful to the community in general and for the europeans in particular and if it makes getting panels *cheaper* as well - all good.
As the person that first asked julianf if he could make me one of Wilba’s MB-SEQ front panels, I can attest to the quality of his workmanship.
I would also like to add that I find 12mm standoffs epoxied into 2mm deep blinds to be a very satisfactory method of fixing the PCB. I haven’t ‘stress’ tested it but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were at least as strong, if not stronger than threaded blinds as there is much more surface area to aid adhesion.
Cheers
Phil
would you be offended if i ran an EU only offer on the panels?
No artificial limits please, some of us here in the US would much rather have a pro panel from a guy paying close attention to detail.
Best regards!
Tim aka SmashTV
Ok everyone, I’ll be doing a roll call for the stateside ppl on the list shortly since I want to get these ordered soon. I have a 20% off coupon to FPE so if we get 10 ppl to go in on this, they will $128 each :frantics:
Will all the panels need to have the same finish? I’d like one in “natural” anodized.
I’ll find out. I am also thinking about them doing windows as well..
Where are we at, Altitude?
In limbo until something happens with the cases. I am not going to get them made until there is an up or down decision.
So i put myself to the wiki. I live in EU. Depends when julianf has his orders ready i’m on this list too.
I’m in for 1 anodised and 1 black, if possible please