When and where will the first Midibox Convention be held 
TK’s lounge ?..Dan’s local pub ?
If it’s going to be in the middle of the planet for equal access for everyone, how about Iraq  ;)
lol
lol it could be a great idea any way ;D
If it’s going to be in the middle of the planet for equal access for everyone, how about Iraq  ;)
I can see the headlines now…“Midibox brings peace to the Middle East, story at 10”
Smash
Or maybe “Brownouts caused by 1000 midiboxers draining the last of Bagdad’s electricity”
Hahahaha ;D
“SCUDs newly controlled by so-called Midiboxes - great improvement of accuracy”
Maybe someone could program an online game, that uses midi controls to play the game, then we could see who has the lowest latency muscle reflexes! (but not anything to do with war, please!)
other than that, I will be going to the SMPTE trade show next week, in Sydney, Hey Thorsten, do you want me to print out the front page of your website, and stick copies on the walls? ;) ;D (though security will probably pull them down!) But then again, jealous companies exhibiting their not so cool control surfaces may not be cool with this! he he!
huumm I think Midibox have to get more audience! It’s an alternative in the midi controller product we can found in the market! Maybe we have to post message to Home Studio magazine in our country, to make them konw that in Germany, there is a guy called Thorsten which is making the midi device of the futur
Just remember that making it more known to people also means that there’s going to be more people that take advantage of these projects for their own commercial projects!! Would be a shame!
So we have the convention at your house
eh Nomical 8)
In answer to pilo… I think Nomical is right…
Dunno how the rest of you guys found this site but I did by doing a google search for “diy midi controller”
Anybody who wants to do that and know how to use the net will find us 
And, of course, spreading the word to our friends and families is still one of the best way to go 
I totally agree with Xcen!!
… I totally disagree!
Why? because I don’t understand why we should be the only ones to know about the midibox?
I think Thorsten works on it because people are making it! And I don’t see what is the problem if it’s known by more people! Thorsten releases some parts of MIOS with the GPL, it’s his choice (I don’t know if you have read the GPL, if you haven’t, do it…)
But I don’t think the problem is here, because TK didn’t “re-invent the wheel”, what he makes, is a powerful modular system of midi controller, and so nobody could take advantage of his work. Don’t forget that the main advantage of the midibox is that you make your own! and no one can sell you that!
So if you mean that you don’t want other people to make midiboxes… it’s quite silly! (it’s what I understand)
I don’t know if you understand me well (because of my average english level), but making midi controller (like mackie or peavey…), is easier to design than midibox! So no one can make money on his back, but for selling MBHP kits! and by making this site more famous we can avoid that…
Well I have had the idea to make a midi controller some years ago, but I gave up… about 9 months ago I found ucapps by mistake…!!! And I think that a lot of people can be interested in making midiboxes, but just don’t know this is as easy as TK made it!
That’s why I think we should make this site more famous…
Well ok, you really have some good points there.
But the only thing i meant was the fact that there are going to be people how are gonna take these ideas and are going to make a lot of money out of it. You and me don’t want it, Thorsten sure as hell doesn’t. That’s just the way this twisted world sometimes works.
But i understood what you meant.
Also, it seems that Thorstens ideas have their own reputation which seems to attract people! ;D
Hi
We need as many like minded people in this community as we can get.
The more minds involved, the more ideas that will be contributed, the fast this system will develop.
We can’t rely on TK to do everything for us, One man just dosen’t have the time to do so. Therefore as I said above we need more members who are actively envolved in the evolution of the MBHP.
Every new member brings with them their own personal expireance and knowledge, which is benifical to us ALL.
Anyway back to the topic, A confrence is a great idea. Though I’m not going to be able to afford a ticket to the other side of the world at the rate my MB if chewing through the cash.
Much respect and love to ALL midiboxer’s
Rowan
I guess we rely on peoples goodwill to not abuse the system… the midibox system is kind of a gift to us. Thorsten has made a choice to genorously share his ideas and hard work with us, for the enjoyment of many friendly people, at the slight risk that someone may rip off his ideas to make money out of it.
I think there are easier ways for dodgy people to make money than to build midiboxes for profit!! It takes a long time to build them, it would probably be easier to work for money at maccas and buy a real logic control than to build this one, but I enjoy the process, the challenge, and having complete creative control over what I build!
I’m just throwing ideas out in the open, I’m not challenging anyone’s thinking, or disagreeing with anyone. We all see things differently.
Maybe we will find a way, one day, of having a midibox convention! C’mon, if Thorsten can make this midibox project happen, surely someone can think of an idea to make this a reality he he! (maybe wishful thinking ;))
have fun all, from Steve
How big’s your house Steve ? :o
OK this “dodgy people making midiboxes for profit” subthread is making me publicly ask something that has been keeping me busy for a while.
I made a software for VJ’s and musicians wanting to do some audio/MIDI responsive visuals to their live shows.
It is not open source, I sell it at 85 euro, which I think is a steal because I spent over 3 years making it, it is more powerful than a lot of apps going for 4x the price, and I really hope it is affordable for everyone at this price.
I’m currently starting building some MIDIboxes, with special configuration towards my VJ software, but also useful with other apps. Now this is great that I can make one for myself, but I have no way of sharing this joy with the users of my program. I can put online a tutorial how to make their own controller, but I cannot honestly ask from my customers to make their own Midibox, I mean not many people out of a random selection would have the skills/knowledge to do this.
I’m also way to small a company (1 man) to start any production line to make these things cost effective.
But it would be immensely useful to me if there was some way for me to license the MIOS design, make a small run of controllers, and sell them at slightly over cost price. Not because I want to make profit on selling MIDI boxes, because I think that its going to be next to impossible to cheaply produce small runs of these things, but having a dedicated hardware controller available would add value to my software (ease of use).
Now if there would be a way for me to pay for each sold controller, even if I would only make $10 per controller to cover the overhead, that would be great for me. I think a lot of other software producers would feel similarly.
I can see why a goodwill based open source project has a lot of bias against commercial approaches, but ‘commercial’ means anything from making $1 to making $1 billion doesnt it really. I think this question is relevant not only in the great MIDIBOX projects but to any open source project in general, and I really think allowing ‘commercial’ use of open source projects could benefit the development of these open source projects.
I would be glad to discuss this matter with all of you, perhaps in another thread if required (this has gone way offtopic already)