I’ll get 24 of theese within the next few weeks for testing.
If the quality is good and if you are interested (and of course there are enough people who want some of them) i will manage to get them over to Europe.
The price depends with the count of orders and will be around $10-$15 USD plus shipping costs.
Update: With shipping costs I mean shipping from Germany to you. The above metioned price includes import from China to Germany
I’ve got a friend doing import from China to Germany commercially. This cuts the shipping costs from China to Europe to virtually nothing. If this might help, let me know and I’ll see what I can do.
According to true 6581 afficionados, the 6581R4AR’s are the best sounding 6581’s out there. They’re “4th” generation (hence the R4), and used in most of the c64c (the beige new-case styled c64’s, as opposed to the oldschool brown breadboxes).
Some C64 musicians (most notably Jeff/VRZ/CML) adore the sound of the 6581, and think the filters and waves this particular SID produces are way better than the 8580’s. The 8580’s are preferred by the more techno oriented musicians (like PVCF/Reflex…), because of the sick filters and some extra waveforms (hey, that’s why most people here seem to prefer the 8580/6582, because of its ability to get dirty like a 303… which the 6581 can’t do because of some well, hmm, it misses some of the extra waveforms in the 8580, and the filters aren’t that good).
Hope to have helped you a bit I prefer the 6581 as well, just because of its cleaner sound, and its ability to do digis using $d418 register on the c64 ;D
(Hmm, you can’t tell I’m an avid c64 user can you? 8) )
According to true 6581 afficionados, the 6581R4AR’s are the best sounding 6581’s out there. They’re “4th” generation (hence the R4), and used in most of the c64c (the beige new-case styled c64’s, as opposed to the oldschool brown breadboxes).
Some C64 musicians (most notably Jeff/VRZ/CML) adore the sound of the 6581, and think the filters and waves this particular SID produces are way better than the 8580’s. The 8580’s are preferred by the more techno oriented musicians (like PVCF/Reflex…), because of the sick filters and some extra waveforms (hey, that’s why most people here seem to prefer the 8580/6582, because of its ability to get dirty like a 303… which the 6581 can’t do because of some well, hmm, it misses some of the extra waveforms in the 8580, and the filters aren’t that good).
Hope to have helped you a bit I prefer the 6581 as well, just because of its cleaner sound, and its ability to do digis using $d418 register on the c64 ;D
(Hmm, you can’t tell I’m an avid c64 user can you? 8) )
the chips basically sound the same filter-wise. The main difference is that the 8580 is more bugfixed than the 6581. This results in a cleaner overall sound (less artifacts) for the 8580, but there is also a disadvantage: a certain bug in the 6581 VCA made it possible to feed it DC, which could be modulated to play samples. This “feature” is missed in the 8580. I think this functionality is useless to midiboxers, we do not play samples over SID. Unless you are building your SID solely for playing old SID tunes via ASID or similar, 8580/6582 is the chip to get for cleanest performance. If you’re into a lo-fi sound with the forementioned artifacts 6581 can be a lot of fun too. But the frequently told story that 8580 is better for lead sounds and 6581 is better for fat basses is not true -at least in TK’s schematic for the SID- because 8580 is just as good with basses.
in one sentence: 6581 is for lo-fi applications and C64 tune players, 8580/6582 is for hi-fi music making.
I prefer the 6581 as well, just because of its cleaner sound, and its ability to do digis using $d418 register on the c64 ;D
the subjectivity of ones SID preference ;D